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Posted by Gotcha on Mon May 21, 2018 9:53 am
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The Phantom Horseman wrote:
Lilley has been pretty ordinary (in limited starts) for Fev apart from his first game against Fax a long time ago, not looking in the same class as Tom Holmes for example, but it's very hard for a half back to shine in an unfamiliar team. Wouldn't surprise me to see Holmes back in SL next season and Lilley at Fev.


I watched the Batley game. He was very good in that game. Holmes was playing fullback, and yes he also looked very good, and I think fullback suits him better which seems to be the current in thing for half backs not made it in that role.

Lilley didn't play the CC game because Leeds did not want him cuptied, and that was the only reason. Not sure why he didn't play Saturday night though, so your explanation might be better there.
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Posted by The Phantom Horseman on Mon May 21, 2018 10:10 am
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Gotcha wrote:
I watched the Batley game. He was very good in that game. Holmes was playing fullback, and yes he also looked very good, and I think fullback suits him better which seems to be the current in thing for half backs not made it in that role.

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Lilley did play pretty well (barring one tackle miss which cost us a try) against Batley behind a dominant pack, but struggled against Toulouse the following week, and although Holmes is versatile and has played very well at full back, we miss the way he orchestrates our right side when he's not playing in the halves. For me Holmes is far closer to being a SL half than Lilley at this stage of their careers, though that might be partly down to lack of consistent game time for Lilley.
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Briscoe Moon Handley Hall
Lilley Myler
Cuthbertson Dwyer Oledzki
Ward Delaney
JJB

Ferres Smith Keinhorst Walters/A Sutcliffe/Ormondroyd.
Posted by rollin thunder on Mon May 21, 2018 1:19 pm
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Frosties. wrote:
Golding
Briscoe Moon Handley Hall
Lilley Myler
Cuthbertson Dwyer Oledzki
Ward Delaney
JJB

Ferres Smith Keinhorst Walters/A Sutcliffe/Ormondroyd.

Moon will be 6, Ormanroyd, cant see him being anywhere near the side, he is what he is and wont be anything more than championship player.
Posted by Gotcha on Mon May 21, 2018 1:44 pm
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With what we have and based on form we should go

Golding
Briscoe Newman Moon Hall
Lilley Myler
Cuthbertson Dwyer Oledzki
JJB Ward
Smith

Ormondroyd Delaney Ferres Trout/ A Sutcliffe
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Posted by RHINO-MARK on Mon May 21, 2018 3:00 pm
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Gotcha wrote:
With what we have and based on form we should go

Golding
Briscoe Newman Moon Hall
Lilley Myler
Cuthbertson Dwyer Oledzki
JJB Ward
Smith

Ormondroyd Delaney Ferres Trout/ A Sutcliffe

Ferres?? How's that based on form exactly? Also Keinhorst has been recalled 100% he plays.
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Posted by Gotcha on Mon May 21, 2018 3:33 pm
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Ferres?? How's that based on form exactly? Also Keinhorst has been recalled 100% he plays.



Because as bad as it is Mark, he is still a better bet than some others, including what will be a completely ineffective Keinhorst. It doesn't change my opinion to get rid, just a question of balance that's all.
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Posted by Sir Kevin Sinfield on Mon May 21, 2018 7:49 pm
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Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:
Weve already lost 3 must win games havent we? Surely this is irrelevant then? Or are you sdmitting the previous ones wasnt must win after all.

The loss against Castleford means we will not get a top 4 spot by round 23. The previous loss means we are not in contention for the league leaders shield.

Do you think these things are still achievable?
Posted by TOMCAT on Mon May 21, 2018 8:08 pm
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Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:
The loss against Castleford means we will not get a top 4 spot by round 23. The previous loss means we are not in contention for the league leaders shield.

Do you think these things are still achievable?


Answering your closing question first, No

But they are far from being impossible. We are only 3 points adrift of 4th place with plenty of games to go. I don't think we definately will finish top 4 but I wouldn't rule it out at this stage of the season.
Posted by Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! on Mon May 21, 2018 9:23 pm
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As Tomcat says we are 3 points adrift of 4th with 32 points to play for. Im not saying we will or wont make the top 4 after 30 Rounds of Super League but to keep saying every game is a must win after we lose a supposedly must win game proves my point.
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