Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 7:33 am  

I see first and second in SL are St. Helens and Wigan....remember them last season, dreadful...loads of injuries and poor form, though Saints did pick up at the back end...a case of deja vu?!

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 7:36 am  

Barley Mow wrote:

I see first and second in SL are St. Helens and Wigan....remember them last season, dreadful...loads of injuries and poor form, though Saints did pick up at the back end...a case of deja vu?!

Saints got a coach and a superstar

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 7:48 am  

Barley Mow wrote:

I see first and second in SL are St. Helens and Wigan....remember them last season, dreadful...loads of injuries and poor form, though Saints did pick up at the back end...a case of deja vu?!

Hope so, the saints model, sack mcdermott, get a compotent coach and storm the league nxt year.

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 7:48 am  

Barley Mow wrote:

I see first and second in SL are St. Helens and Wigan....remember them last season, dreadful...loads of injuries and poor form, though Saints did pick up at the back end...a case of deja vu?!

You do realise Saints brought in a new coach half way through last season? This completely turning them around. But for missed goal kicks in the semi they would have won the GF last season. Yet many on here were quick to write them off as rubbish and would be nowhere near the top six.

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 7:51 am  

tad rhino wrote:

bluey couldn't coach either. but he recognized that and he was sensible enough to let Cummins and poching do all the training ground stuff.
McDermott won't let anybody else near.
was he lucky? yes he was but let's give him some credit.he obviously contributed a lot.
but now? he has to go.

I am not so sure of that on bluey. He managed a few times winning matches we had written off due to playing near reserve sides. And his development of younger players was first class. Hell, he could even win league matches against Castleford

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 8:07 am  

On the actual game last night thought Myler, Oledzki, Walker and Golding went pretty well and Walters put some good effort in. Myler is the clear leader in superleague for assists now after his 3 last night. Ward had probably his worst game in a leeds shirt, trying too hard imo, ferris absolute garbage again and cuthbertson needs to play more like a prop than a 6 whilst we'r light on forwards.

Ash Handley intrigues me, his defence is poor at the moment, but he shows a load of potential ball in hand thats worth percivering with imo, he's going to be a great athlete, he'l be 6'3/6'4 and over 16 st by the time he's 25, he's rapid with good footwork and he's got some very natural and impressive ball handling skills, he runs some good lines and knows how to put his winger in. He can go from awful to great and back again in the space of one game at the minute, but think he could be some player when he pieces it all together, if his futures at Centre, he needs to work hard on his defence, if he eventually goes back to wing, he needs to work on taking high balls. I really hope we give him another conrract and see where he can get to over the next 2 or 3 years.

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 8:23 am  

From a Dragons Perspective we are a much improved team .It is ,however,a great help that we only have one major injury.I saw Leeds at Newcastle last week and both then and yesterday your forwards were not making nearly enough ground.You only got into the match yesterday because of Moa's suspension and Mcilorum's 20 minute rest. But like no other side you have shown how you can come back from adversity and I think you will again.

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 8:44 am  

catalanglais wrote:

From a Dragons Perspective we are a much improved team .It is ,however,a great help that we only have one major injury.I saw Leeds at Newcastle last week and both then and yesterday your forwards were not making nearly enough ground.You only got into the match yesterday because of Moa's suspension and Mcilorum's 20 minute rest. But like no other side you have shown how you can come back from adversity and I think you will again.

You are correct, we’re not making enough ground with the ball in hand, we desperately need Garbutt back from his injury.

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 8:50 am  

Sir Kevin Sinfield wrote:

You are correct, we’re not making enough ground with the ball in hand, we desperately need Garbutt back from his injury.

Agree on Garbutt, was having an absolute stormer against Hull in the game he got injured. One of the best and most underrated props in superleague.

Re: RD 16 | Catalan Dragons v Leeds Rhinos : Sun May 27, 2018 9:05 am  

catalanglais wrote:

From a Dragons Perspective we are a much improved team .It is ,however,a great help that we only have one major injury.I saw Leeds at Newcastle last week and both then and yesterday your forwards were not making nearly enough ground.You only got into the match yesterday because of Moa's suspension and Mcilorum's 20 minute rest. But like no other side you have shown how you can come back from adversity and I think you will again.

Totally agree about Catalan, very aggressive, on the borderline and a few times over it though IMO. You were totally dominant and was no need for Moa to do what he did , it was a red card for me. From then Leeds came back but Were bullied up front in general If Catalan could keep the discipline, they will be very tough to beat in France for rest of this year.

Re Leeds agree with many feels like a change is needed, however Holbrook, wane or anyone else would have no chance with the injuries up front and can't turn the clock back 5 years in the back row.

I suspect cuthbo and ward were borderline fit to play at best and Delaney not even that. It's almost cruel.

On plus side Thought Ferres was much better, think he played full game and only one able to give some back to the likes of Bird.

McD has a brilliant record of getting sides to peak at the end of the season, if that does not happen this year, I think a change will come.