Re: Charity shield : Fri Oct 20, 2017 9:51 am  

Him wrote:

Not really no. The draw of the WCC is that it’s against high quality teams we don’t get to see normally.

We played Hull 4 times this season.

And three of those were far from fine examples of exciting rugby, with punters kept on the edge of their seats. In fact, the league game at Headingley was so dire, had I not been a guest, I would have walked.

Tried it once before, it was crap then and it would be crap now. Someone who knew something about promotion and marketing might be able to raise a crowd but FFS this is the RFL we're talking about!

Re: Charity shield : Fri Oct 20, 2017 11:01 am  

rhino65 wrote:

Great idea......we could call the half barrell trophy the "For the live of God, Allah or whoever" cup. Smashing........

If it spawns a thread that runs for over 230 pages spanning 6 years and polarises opinion across the fan base then I'm all for it.

Re: Charity shield : Fri Oct 20, 2017 6:20 pm  

Him wrote:

Not really no. The draw of the WCC is that it’s against high quality teams we don’t get to see normally.

We played Hull 4 times this season.

The draw of the WCC is because it is billed as the winners being the best team in the world.
The reality is it's a jet lagged second string Aussie side still in their pre-season, taking on the SL champions who are 4 games into their season, in England. It's nonsensical.

Re: Charity shield : Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:14 pm  

Stevosfalseteeth wrote:

You don't think Leeds and Hull supporters could sell 35,000 tickets at Elland Road in February?

I don't think they'd even want to play. Hull are in Australia for a large part of February. Complete non-starter.

Re: Charity shield : Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:39 pm  

Les Norton wrote:

It’ll all end in tears and we’ll have a player sent off for a trip or something

Nice reference for those of a certain vintage. IIRC Russell Smith didn't hesitate but no surprises there.

Re choice of venue would Elland Road even be big enough?

Re: Charity shield : Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:01 pm  

tvoc wrote: Nice reference for those of a certain vintage. IIRC Russell Smith didn't hesitate but no surprises there. He didn't but it's hard to argue in retrospect (although it was hardly the worst foul ever in terms of impact with Nigel Wright). https://youtu.be/IUukTEmb5rg?t=16s These highlights don't show everything but why did Leeds kick a penalty when already 10-0 down?

tvoc wrote: Nice reference for those of a certain vintage. IIRC Russell Smith didn't hesitate but no surprises there. He didn't but it's hard to argue in retrospect (although it was hardly the worst foul ever in terms of impact with Nigel Wright). https://youtu.be/IUukTEmb5rg?t=16s These highlights don't show everything but why did Leeds kick a penalty when already 10-0 down?

Re: Charity shield : Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:37 pm  

Him wrote:

Not really no. The draw of the WCC is that it’s against high quality teams we don’t get to see normally.

We played Hull 4 times this season.

5 wasnt it. 2 times in the league 1 in the super 8s, 1 in the cup, 1 in the playoffs.

If we do scrap it, which i think we should do rather than continue to halfarse it, we should do a 9s comp somewhere warm to start the year or a magic style weekend where every game is televised but on the road games sold to bidding cities.

Re: Charity Shield? : Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:30 pm  

Don't see anything with having the challenge cup winners take on the champions in a big event but like everything it needs to be put into a full fixture list which makes sense for everyone. At the moment we don't have any room with so many games and there still isn't a real international window.

Joined up thinking is what is needed.

Re: Charity Shield? : Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:15 am  

rhinos21 wrote:

Don't see anything with having the challenge cup winners take on the champions in a big event but like everything it needs to be put into a full fixture list which makes sense for everyone. At the moment we don't have any room with so many games and there still isn't a real international window.

Joined up thinking is what is needed.

Why not play it as the first game of the season, as Leeds' home game vs Hull, but make a bigger deal out of it?

Re: Charity Shield? : Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:14 am  

What we don't need is more meaningless fixtures - the WCC looks dead in the water so just see the positive its one less fixture to screw up the start of the season.