Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:32 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

People diss McNamara, mainly because he unforgiveably couldn't get an England team weaker in key positions to beat better teams when it counts. Yet he's the only British coach with the humility to recognise that maybe he needs to learn a bit more, and has spent time learning the ropes as an assistant in the NRL. I'd bet there would be many poorer Aussie coaches available.

I hope he gets the Saints job, he ruined Bradford now he can ruin them as well

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:11 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

People diss McNamara, mainly because he unforgiveably couldn't get an England team weaker in key positions to beat better teams when it counts. Yet he's the only British coach with the humility to recognise that maybe he needs to learn a bit more, and has spent time learning the ropes as an assistant in the NRL. I'd bet there would be many poorer Aussie coaches available.

He did a good job with england in fairness, never had any luck when it really mattered but got us very close a couple of times.

I think he would come back a far better and wiser coach than his last stint here with Bulls. Like you say, probably a better option than many other names that will get banded about.

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:57 am  

I commentated on the Huddersfield v Catalan game, and based on last night, plus against Leeds I can't see Huddersfield anywhere other than the bottom 4, they were awful, with the exception of Ikahihifo.

Doesn't help though when your captain decides to get himself sin binned because he can't keep his mouth shut and the whole game turns on that.

Will Brough ever learn?

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:12 am  

No.

Not as if he's going to change now either though is it?

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:27 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

He did a good job with england in fairness, never had any luck when it really mattered but got us very close a couple of times.

I think he would come back a far better and wiser coach than his last stint here with Bulls. Like you say, probably a better option than many other names that will get banded about.

Tend to agree. Inept at times with the media and how he handled players but he managed to create the first proper "team" spirit we'd had for many years. You could see the guys were actually a team not a bunch who brought club rivalries and practices (eg. heavy drinking) to the international side. He deserves much credit for that.

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:19 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

He did a good job with england in fairness, never had any luck when it really mattered but got us very close a couple of times.

I think he would come back a far better and wiser coach than his last stint here with Bulls. Like you say, probably a better option than many other names that will get banded about.

Tend to agree but lets not forget the International set up isn't a week in week out Coach & players always together.
I wouldn't want him in charge at Leeds he was imo found out at Bratfut & being an assistent Coach is now his level imo.

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:43 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Tend to agree but lets not forget the International set up isn't a week in week out Coach & players always together.
I wouldn't want him in charge at Leeds he was imo found out at Bratfut & being an assistent Coach is now his level imo.

Agreed. McNamara had years at Bradford before the finances started to impact on the playing squad yet after a semi decent first season he took them into the equivalent of the Middle 8s on a regular basis. I thought he did well for England, but it is a different kettle of fish to being a regular coach.

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Sat Apr 15, 2017 8:36 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

Agreed. McNamara had years at Bradford before the finances started to impact on the playing squad yet after a semi decent first season he took them into the equivalent of the Middle 8s on a regular basis. I thought he did well for England, but it is a different kettle of fish to being a regular coach.

not so sure about that on reflection, he finished 3rd and 5th first two full seasons (2007,2008) with them which was not too shabby to say they were way past their dominant best by then, yes by 2009 they finished 9th but had a first choice three quarter line containing Platt, Sherrife and Sykes i think the writing was on the wall by then!

i agree he wasn't great mind, but that was his first job and surely the Subsequent England Job and NRL role will have only improved him I'm sure he would make a better club coach these days for those experiences. Anyway, we will only find out for sure when a club takes a punt on him.

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:32 pm  

Cunningham should never have got the job in the first place. Too little experience, no time away from the club between being a player and then coach. He didn't 'do his time'. Former players need to really commit the time and have the humility to start lower down and build up the experience. Love him or hate him Wane did that and he's a damn decent coach for it.

I think they'll make the same mistake with Long. They'll have some good results and McManus will give him the gig. Within 2 years he'll probably be gone.

McManus has really dropped the ball in the last 7 years. He's made a succession of mediocre coaching appointments and has been fast to pull the trigger on them, coupled with uninspiring recruitment.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: SACKED | Kieran Cunningham - St Helens : Tue Apr 18, 2017 9:09 pm  

Thats what happens when all your cash is tied up in a new stadium.

Good job were not embarking on any construction plans in the near future......