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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:15 am  
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We're in a worst position to last season with our props!

We've lost our best one and not replaced him!

Really? How many minutes did he play last year?
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 10:57 am  
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The prop situation is odd. We knew we needed and stand off, centre/wing and at least one back row and in the main we have filled those positions well.

We were light in the pack last season and garbutt ping makes that worse yet we don't seem to have made any serious moves for new props. There must be a reason for this. Perhaps it's a lack of attainable quality so we are waiting it out but I wonder if, as someone has said, we are wanting to be mobile next season and play more in the backs?


we have made serious moves, we had the lad from Huddersfield lined up but he decided to saty there, or the players we were offloading in swap deal would not move there, we have been linked with other props as well. Garbutt hardly played and was a big earner and it seems universally accepted he had a poor attitude so not losing owt there.
yes we could do with another prop but as has been stated many times we need to offload a couple of other players first and they don't want to go. It may be mid season or 2020 before we can bring in another prop. but maybe Oledski Holroyd etc can take the opportunity.
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:03 am  
LeedsLurch wrote:
Really? How many minutes did he play last year?

Not alot
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:14 am  
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Really? How many minutes did he play last year?

His absence last year only highlighted how much we missed him so what's yer point?
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:02 pm  
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we have made serious moves, we had the lad from Huddersfield lined up but he decided to saty there, or the players we were offloading in swap deal would not move there, we have been linked with other props as well. Garbutt hardly played and was a big earner and it seems universally accepted he had a poor attitude so not losing owt there.
yes we could do with another prop but as has been stated many times we need to offload a couple of other players first and they don't want to go. It may be mid season or 2020 before we can bring in another prop. but maybe Oledski Holroyd etc can take the opportunity.

I have no view of how seriously we pursued the Hudds lad but I never saw anything but some comments on here. I'd also suggest that if a prop was high on the list then not making progress with him would have seen us move on to other targets. Of course this may be happening out of sight but if we really wanted a prop I would venture that we would have heard more.
As for offloading others. Agree this needs to happen and isn't easy but if we really wanted to we could make this happen via various sweeteners.
So to me, i'm not getting the impression this is a top priority at this point.
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:24 pm  
Sort of agree what you are saying here.
Unless of course we are moving heaven on earth behind the scenes to get someone in for pre season.
The club could offer to pay part of a players contract in order to move them on.
Huddersfield did this with Brough to Wakefield.
Maybe we stick with what we have got and hope the likes of Mullaley and Ormandroyd do the business.
Funnily enough I would have been happy to get Gadwin Springer from Cas as he always looks pretty handy when I`ve seen him play.
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:26 pm  
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His absence last year only highlighted how much we missed him so what's yer point?

The point is how much can you miss a big portion of salary cap that is sat in the stands more often than not?
I have to trust in Sir Kev and co if they think someone is not of "Leeds materiel" and think we would be better off without than with.
I agree that we still need to stregnthen in the front row but it has to be on a balanced book and it seems obvious that we are still trying to offload some SC to make way, this will take as long as it takes. I think we are finally in the transtion phase that we have all been calling for for so long and it will not happen overnight. We have made great strides forwards in marquee signings but dont kid yourself if you think we will be in the running for silverware this coming season
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:38 pm  
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The point is how much can you miss a big portion of salary cap that is sat in the stands more often than not?
I have to trust in Sir Kev and co if they think someone is not of "Leeds materiel" and think we would be better off without than with.
I agree that we still need to stregnthen in the front row but it has to be on a balanced book and it seems obvious that we are still trying to offload some SC to make way, this will take as long as it takes. I think we are finally in the transtion phase that we have all been calling for for so long and it will not happen overnight. We have made great strides forwards in marquee signings but dont kid yourself if you think we will be in the running for silverware this coming season

So you are agreeing with Bang & most others then that we still need at least 1 quality Prop?
Wrt balancing the books this highlights what a ridiculous call it was to renew deals for Mullally Walters Ablett & Ornanroyd in particular none are worth a starting 17 spot.
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:42 pm  
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we have made serious moves, we had the lad from Huddersfield lined up but he decided to saty there,


Apparently he is holding out for a top club...
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Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V2 : Tue Dec 11, 2018 12:53 pm  
RHINO-MARK wrote:
So you are agreeing with Bang & most others then that we still need at least 1 quality Prop?
Wrt balancing the books this highlights what a ridiculous call it was to renew deals for Mullally Walters Ablett & Ornanroyd in particular none are worth a starting 17 spot.

I get the point with Walters etc..but the ship has sailed so little point still bashing people with it.

Also, just because they aren't worth a starting spot doesn't mean we don't need them. Its a squad game and we will get injuries. You're not going to build a squad of 30 world class players. The salary cap stops this.
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