Re: General Topic | Where have the leaders gone? : Thu Jan 12, 2017 3:40 am  

We should differentiate between leaders and organisers. Sometimes (often in fact) they can be the same player, but what most coaches want is multiple players who can "lead' at different times. At Souths Sam Burgess is clearly the forward leader - he sets the tone for the forwards in both attack and defence. That's entirely separate from the role of guiding the team around the pitch, and in attacking positions Burgess generally lets the halfback call the shots (something James Graham has struggled with).

What we lost with Sinfield and JP was both being leaders and Sinfield being responsible for managing the game. In time we will find players internally who can lead as required - by example or talking. Finding the organiser is the real worry. Without that - providing structure, making sure players know what plays are on etc - everything else becomes a bit moot.

I would say that its really hard to judge halfbacks without looking at what's going on around them. If there are no runners or alternatives, anyone will look bad. From what I saw of games last year, the problem wasn't just the halfbacks but the entire team looking clueless. A Thurston would be able to come in and sort it out through sheer presence and ability. Pretty much anyone else and you need the team as a whole to help out.

Re: General Topic | Where have the leaders gone? : Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:20 am  

Brisbane- That was pointed out many times.

Re: General Topic | Where have the leaders gone? : Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:06 pm  

They're still M.I.A not looking promising

Re: General Topic | Where have the leaders gone? : Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:36 pm  

Some genuine confidence always helps.

I watched Mags' after match interview on the club website, made me feel very sad for the guy. A tremendous player and servent of the club now asked to bear a burden that's beyond his body's capability.

Re: General Topic | Where have the leaders gone? : Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:57 am  

According to some posters on here a fit mags is the massiah to save the club trouble is he was a puppet in the sinfield orchestra

Re: General Topic | Where have the leaders gone? : Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:47 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

We should differentiate between leaders and organisers. Sometimes (often in fact) they can be the same player, but what most coaches want is multiple players who can "lead' at different times. At Souths Sam Burgess is clearly the forward leader - he sets the tone for the forwards in both attack and defence. That's entirely separate from the role of guiding the team around the pitch, and in attacking positions Burgess generally lets the halfback call the shots (something James Graham has struggled with).

What we lost with Sinfield and JP was both being leaders and Sinfield being responsible for managing the game. In time we will find players internally who can lead as required - by example or talking. Finding the organiser is the real worry. Without that - providing structure, making sure players know what plays are on etc - everything else becomes a bit moot.

I would say that its really hard to judge halfbacks without looking at what's going on around them. If there are no runners or alternatives, anyone will look bad. From what I saw of games last year, the problem wasn't just the halfbacks but the entire team looking clueless. A Thurston would be able to come in and sort it out through sheer presence and ability. Pretty much anyone else and you need the team as a whole to help out.

There really should be a like button on this board.

Re: General Topic | Where have the leaders gone? : Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:03 am  

Kenny236 wrote:

...trouble is he was a puppet in the sinfield orchestra

There's been some good points made in the last few days (see BrisbaneRhinos post above) and there's been some absolute crap posted.
The above falls into the latter category, in fact it might be the biggest pile of of crap posted on here so far this year.. which is really saying something.

Re: General Topic | Where have the leaders gone? : Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:12 am  

Kenny236 wrote:

According to some posters on here a fit mags is the massiah to save the club trouble is he was a puppet in the sinfield orchestra

He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy.