Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Mon Nov 28, 2016 3:15 pm  

DGM wrote:

A quick look at the latest Balance Sheet (Aug 2015) shows a net asset position of £2.3m, pretty much the same as 2014, minus the small P&L loss. The creditors position is £4.6m owed, versus a debtors position of £5.7m.

Jumping back to 2008 the BS is in a net liability position of £79k, so financially Leeds are in a much healthier position now.

Not sure what company you're looking at but it's not Leeds CF&A Ltd which hasn't made a loss for several years and has net assets of £17m+

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Mon Nov 28, 2016 6:15 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

It took 9 years minimum to build that side that won the GF in 2004. Might be similar to do it all again.

No it didn't, it took about 3. We lost a couple of years momentum under dean lance, but were the real deal under Murray,if Murray had stayed another 3-4 years we would have had a couple of championships under him.

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:45 pm  

I think the criticism towards GH over Segeyaro is a tad harsh. He gave him time to think things over and the player made the decision to sign the contract. If GH had let him leave after his short stint last season without making any attempt to sign the player there would have been an outcry on here about lacking ambition etc. I think the only option now is to try and hold out for a fee while looking elsewhere, but we are certainly in need of a hooker if he doesn't return.
The criticism over the southstand ticket situation is a different matter. I think the club must have known for a good while this was unlikely to happen any time soon.

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:20 pm  

rollin thunder wrote:

No it didn't, it took about 3. We lost a couple of years momentum under dean lance, but were the real deal under Murray,if Murray had stayed another 3-4 years we would have had a couple of championships under him.

You can't prove that. If anything Leeds were showing signs of going stale at the end of Murray's last season. We looked far from championship material under Lance, and in Powell's first year(s) in charge.

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:18 pm  

the great era we had that started 03/04 was with the lads that all came through pretty much together. You had Sinfield,JJB,Carvell,Calderwood,Diskin etc..all in the 97/98/99 academy set up then Burrow/McGuire/Bailey/Walker etc.. around 2000 so the seeds were sown with quality of recruitment around the advent of SL and Dean Bells time with us leading into Murray. Point is it does take a fair few years to build things like this from within, it doesn't happen overnight.

Main question has to be why we aren't finding groups of lads with the ability of those players anymore.

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Mon Nov 28, 2016 9:45 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

You can't prove that. If anything Leeds were showing signs of going stale at the end of Murray's last season. We looked far from championship material under Lance, and in Powell's first year(s) in charge.

Also got to take into consideration the strength of the other teams around those 2/3 years. Bradford were at their peak, Saints and Wigan so strong too. To pull off a championship let alone a couple in that period between Murray leaving and the 2004 success would've been very tough regardless of coach.

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Mon Nov 28, 2016 10:04 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Also got to take into consideration the strength of the other teams around those 2/3 years. Bradford were at their peak, Saints and Wigan so strong too. To pull off a championship let alone a couple in that period between Murray leaving and the 2004 success would've been very tough regardless of coach.

Yep, those were three strong teams.

Imo, the 2003 Leeds team would have done the treble in style was it around last season, yet ended with nothing.

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Tue Nov 29, 2016 5:56 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

the great era we had that started 03/04 was with the lads that all came through pretty much together. You had Sinfield,JJB,Carvell,Calderwood,Diskin etc..all in the 97/98/99 academy set up then Burrow/McGuire/Bailey/Walker etc.. around 2000 so the seeds were sown with quality of recruitment around the advent of SL and Dean Bells time with us leading into Murray. Point is it does take a fair few years to build things like this from within, it doesn't happen overnight.

Main question has to be why we aren't finding groups of lads with the ability of those players anymore.

Because we don't have the same quality coaching set up, development, or focus on it. Haven't done for last five years.

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:42 am  

I mentioned the poor state of Leeds academy on here about 5 years ago, and got slated for it. I asked then was it a scouting or coaching problem?

Onto the #9. Any truth in the RUMOUR that Leeds have approached Wigan for the signature of Micky McIlorum?

Re: The truth according to Gaz H : Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:04 pm  

Yet in the last 5years we have seen Sutcliffe, Ward, Handley, singleton, coming through, and now Golding, Lilley, Smith and Hallas