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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:11 am  
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Will still be on comparitive peanuts even after an increase. If he's on anymore than that the CEO has lost it and I doubt he has.



He was on £600 a month last year tvoc. I know your opinion on him, but he was worth far more than that, and will have been compensated accordingley.
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:37 am  
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Yeah I'd agree with that. Whilst it's said on the other thread he's better in all departments than Sutcliffe, so he should be. He made his debut 6 years before Sutcliffe and is now hitting his prime years at 28. Good player but probably should be better at this stage and has an advantage of playing in a Wire team that when they run hot can make players look better than they are. Don't recall him etting the world alight and solving Wire's problems at HB post Briers and they had to go find some NRL guys.

I actually think its the other way around. I think he has been moved around so much hes not developed into being great at any one position, just alright in several. a change of scenery would do him good
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:44 am  
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He was on £600 a month last year tvoc.


Plus win bonuses?
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:09 pm  
You'd hope so, not that they would have occurred all that often in 2016.

If you were full-time - let's say circa 37.5 hrs a week and your gross was £600 a month that would equate to a hourly rate of £3.69 Come on Gary, we're not Sheffield.
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:59 pm  
By last year does Gotcha mean 2015 or 16? For those part time players or those without a contract a win bonus is a huge income, assuming all players get the same win bonus, which used to be the case.
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Thu Sep 29, 2016 2:06 pm  
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Why do you have to assume increased amounts for Watkins, Sutcliffe, and Ward? they all had long term contracts. Lilley is a certainty, you are right there, but nothing to suggest the others. Watkins was on very big money long before this year. Of course there will also be Gouldens lates contract to throw into the mix.

Of course we don't know in individual cases but often younger players contracts will steadily increase over the course of a long term contract. Often the reverse is true of older players.
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:46 am  
Back to Ratchford, thought he was excellent last night. Real quality performance in an otherwise sub-standard game.
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Fri Sep 30, 2016 3:59 pm  
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Back to Ratchford, thought he was excellent last night. Real quality performance in an otherwise sub-standard game.

I'm a big fan of ratchford but putting that to one side he was good at fb last night, do we need that?

I think sutty has done well so far and should only get better. You also could not move him to so to accommodate ratchford so would have to move him to the forwards or move him on. Some like sutty for 13 but I don't.

What we do need is a so. Is ratchford the answer to that? I like him at so but I understand why others have reservations so it would probably be a risk. Can we afford to take that risk?
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Fri Sep 30, 2016 9:27 pm  
are they not similar? ratchford is a decent player who, had he nailed a set position earlier, would have been better off.
unless leeds decide where sutty is going to play he also will end up as a jack of all trades. even us fans are split. i'm not sure he will be anything more than an adequate full back and 13 is his best position.
someone somewhere needs to make a decision
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Re: Zak hardaker-Stefan ratchford : Fri Sep 30, 2016 10:34 pm  
I know we are desperate, but Ratchford is not going to give us anything significantly better than what we've already got. Like someone said, Wire rate him so highly they brought in Gidley.
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