Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:45 am  

Utter balls. Kenny was a very good organiser himself. The fact that he was paired with an even better one makes no difference. Have a look at the Wigan-Hull CC Final to see Kenny do plenty of organising. Those were also the days when the halfbacks actually played next to each other most of the time. Nowadays halfbacks are generally split most of the time, so if anything the requirement for ALL halfbacks to be able to set up plays is even more important.

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:17 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

You really do suffer from cognitive dissonance!!

This is the 3rd time you've written that about me and you've also taken the line I ONCE posted to you "even Stevie Wonder could see that" about a dozen times when replying to me.

If anybody is suffering with something, it's you with your unhealthy obsession about me.

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:39 pm  

Out of interest who got young player of the year last year?

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:03 pm  

chapylad wrote:

Out of interest who got young player of the year last year?

Ash Handley

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:35 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Utter balls. Kenny was a very good organiser himself. The fact that he was paired with an even better one makes no difference. Have a look at the Wigan-Hull CC Final to see Kenny do plenty of organising. Those were also the days when the halfbacks actually played next to each other most of the time. Nowadays halfbacks are generally split most of the time, so if anything the requirement for ALL halfbacks to be able to set up plays is even more important.

Kenny COULD organise, but he was one of the top 5 halves to ever play the game. My point is that when he played next to Sterlo he did virtually no organising or kicking at all. Anyone playing next to that little general type half like Sterlo (or in SL someone like Sneyd) wouldn't need to be great at organising and tactical kicking.
If you put pretty much any of our halves next to Sneyd they would become top class as they would be able to express themselves without worrying about organising shape and structure

Also, this is off topic, but I totally disagree with splitting the halves, as it more often than not leads to less enterprising play. Most of the good NRL teams have switched back to halves passing to each other again accordingly.

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:10 pm  

sneyd? really? a half back who can't pass. doesn't attack the line either. he's like a quarter back, sits back and kicks rather than throws. massively overrated

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Fri Sep 23, 2016 3:45 am  

tad rhino wrote:

sneyd? really? a half back who can't pass. doesn't attack the line either. he's like a quarter back, sits back and kicks rather than throws. massively overrated

Excactly why he would pair well with one of our halves

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:09 am  

Most NRL sides have not stopped splitting halfbacks. Cronk and Green at the Storm, Thurston and Morgan at the Cowboys, Hunt and Milford at the Broncos, and Maloney/Townend at the Sharks to name but a few who play most of the game split. Most halfbacks are smart enough enough to know when to break the rule, but for long periods of most games halfbacks play split. It may revert back to traditional 6/7 but ATM there's generally no real difference in where they play. About the only difference we do see is last tackle options generally going to the halfback with the best kicking game.

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:19 am  

None of which changes my basic point. We have five halfback options - McGuire, Burrow, Lilley, Sutcliffe and Moon - none of whom do the most basic role of a halfback in terms of setting up plays and controlling a game to any kind of standard. Lilley and Sutcliffe are young enough to be in the "may develop" box, but IMO its depressing that none of the five can run a team without another player to hold their hands.

Re: 2016 Player of the Year : Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:57 am  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

None of which changes my basic point. We have five halfback options - McGuire, Burrow, Lilley, Sutcliffe and Moon - none of whom do the most basic role of a halfback in terms of setting up plays and controlling a game to any kind of standard. Lilley and Sutcliffe are young enough to be in the "may develop" box, but IMO its depressing that none of the five can run a team without another player to hold their hands.

Hence our No1 priority is to sign a quality creative organiser.