Re: Danny McGuire : Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:35 pm  

tvoc wrote:

Leeds were playing in the lower league yesterday, Lilley still looked slow and missed as many tackles as he made (IMO - whether Opta agree or not) I still don't see what some fans are seeing in him.

matty smith, luke walsh and michael dobson aren't that quick either tbh and none of them couldn't tackle a hot diner either
i would have loved either of walsh or dobson at our club this season

luke walsh is apparently manly bound which i find even more surprising judging by both of his deficiencies in his skill set that you have highlighted that lilley is also missing

i am not championing lilley nor am i writing lilley off just yet as he's still very young and is still on a steep learning curve trying to do a sinny type of game management
imo he could yet still prove to be a creative scrum half for us,especially if we get a decent 6 that compliments his skills

Re: Danny McGuire : Sun Aug 21, 2016 11:06 pm  

Are you comparing the pace of those three as they are now or as they were when they were twenty as Lilley will be in a fortnight?
Lilley has to be the slowest player I've seen pull on a first grade jersey for Leeds. The rest of his game at present doesn't even come close to compensating. Long term I don't see a future for him at Headingley, as soon as the next one rolls off the production line he'll be history and soon forgotten, IMO.

Re: Danny McGuire : Mon Aug 22, 2016 12:46 pm  

Danny won the Sunderland Trophy last GF and its not too long ago and because of that I think he will be still here next year

Re: Danny McGuire : Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:51 pm  

lionarmour87 wrote:

Danny won the Sunderland Trophy last GF and its not too long ago and because of that I think he will be still here next year

He and the rest of the team need to up their game considerably to be anything near to that performance next season.
We are rubbish this year with no signs of new players coming in to make it happen in 2017.

Re: Danny McGuire : Mon Aug 22, 2016 2:12 pm  

Body has let him down this year. Given that a lot of his game is based on the speed he does things, struggling to be fit has limited his effectiveness. It's all dependent on how fit he can get over the off season and who plays alongside him in the halves. If he's healthy and there are not too many expectations on him to "run" the game he could still be effective I think.
But reality is looking like he won't be able to get (or stay) healthy enough and he will be in a team with no hooker and no game managing half.

Re: Danny McGuire : Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:56 pm  

DHM wrote:

Body has let him down this year. Given that a lot of his game is based on the speed he does things, struggling to be fit has limited his effectiveness. It's all dependent on how fit he can get over the off season and who plays alongside him in the halves. If he's healthy and there are not too many expectations on him to "run" the game he could still be effective I think.
But reality is looking like he won't be able to get (or stay) healthy enough and he will be in a team with no hooker and no game managing half.

This.
Always wanted to say that

Re: Danny McGuire : Mon Aug 22, 2016 4:13 pm  

lionarmour87 wrote:

Danny won the Sunderland Trophy last GF and its not too long ago and because of that I think he will be still here next year

that was last year. he's been awful, when he's actually got on the field that is. this season was a year to far, next will be worse imo

Re: Danny McGuire : Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:42 pm  

I wouldn't write him off just yet. Regardless of one halfback position, we really need someone to steer the team around. Soward and Marshall are the most likely from the NRL. Personally I'd go for Soward because organisation and kicking are exactly his strengths. Marshall has just lost his mojo and hasn't adapted his game to the inevitable loss of pace. Its a bit sad to see him wind up for a run at the defence with his trademark hop skip and jump looking like a slow motion version of him at his peak.

Re: Danny McGuire : Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:02 am  

I was totally underwhelmed by Soward's efforts for London & he was useless in defence.

Re: Danny McGuire : Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:28 pm  

Old Feller wrote:

I was totally underwhelmed by Soward's efforts for London & he was useless in defence.

It may not be inaccurate to suggest Soward is at London for a mini-holiday before a Full-Time deal next season.

London were always v.unlikely to go up, which would explain why Soward perhaps isn't at full steam.

Playing with better players tends to lift your game