Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:32 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

It would be worse than mid table IMO. I just hope what I was hearing yesterday is totally wrong, as there was a thread on here quite a while ago about us repeating the bulls which got laughed at. Not sure if that bad, but there is some desperation at the moment up top at the club, if these comments are true.

I just hope what I heard the other day isn't true, otherwise it will change the very fabric of our existence and cause a complete breakdown of societal structure the like of which destroyed civilizations thousands of years ago.

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 6:45 am  

FGB wrote:

The squad for 2017 is stronger already with the departure of The Church. What a complete feck up of a signing he was.

Why wasn't anyone in the coaching setup willing to admit to this in all the wasted time he was with us? A passenger all that time. Always wondered if Mac was waiting for a miracle of biblical proportions when suddenly Achurch would become a decent player.

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:43 am  

chunkyhugo wrote:

Why wasn't anyone in the coaching setup willing to admit to this in all the wasted time he was with us? A passenger all that time. Always wondered if Mac was waiting for a miracle of biblical proportions when suddenly Achurch would become a decent player.

That would then cast the spotlight firmly at the person who agreed the deal i.e. GH and we all know you don't criticise Gary and get away with it.

Last year Sinfield suggested he would like to have Gary's job - one day - where is he now!! a classic case of cutting your nose off!!

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 2:59 pm  

chunkyhugo wrote:

Why wasn't anyone in the coaching setup willing to admit to this in all the wasted time he was with us? A passenger all that time. Always wondered if Mac was waiting for a miracle of biblical proportions when suddenly Achurch would become a decent player.

What exactly should they have done? Publicly slate his signing? That's not exactly how you run a club by slagging off one of your players in the press.

That he was out of the picture at the start of the year and at Fev showed what they thought of him and whenever that happened or he didn't make the 17 people use to criticise McDermott for not giving him a proper chance because he wasn't one of his "favourites"......then when he did pick him this year out of necessarily because of injuries he got slated for it and people saying Achurch is one of his favourites.

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:46 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

What exactly should they have done? Publicly slate his signing? That's not exactly how you run a club by slagging off one of your players in the press.

That he was out of the picture at the start of the year and at Fev showed what they thought of him and whenever that happened or he didn't make the 17 people use to criticise McDermott for not giving him a proper chance because he wasn't one of his "favourites"......then when he did pick him this year out of necessarily because of injuries he got slated for it and people saying Achurch is one of his favourites.

More balanced output from the club would be a good start. Saying every year this is the best squad on the planet is a joke nobody takes it seriously no point even saying it.

Last season was nothing short of a disgrace some honest appraisal of what they could have done better would be welcome

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:50 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

More balanced output from the club would be a good start. Saying every year this is the best squad on the planet is a joke nobody takes it seriously no point even saying it.

Last season was nothing short of a disgrace some honest appraisal of what they could have done better would be welcome

They could do that with regards to this seasons performance......we were on about Achurch though?

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 4:55 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

They could do that with regards to this seasons performance......we were on about Achurch though?

Sometimes signings don't work out you just need to be big enough to admit you got it wrong?

Plenty of back slapping when it works not much contrition when it doesn't ?

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:08 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

More balanced output from the club would be a good start. Saying every year this is the best squad on the planet is a joke nobody takes it seriously no point even saying it.

Last season was nothing short of a disgrace some honest appraisal of what they could have done better would be welcome

Oh look he's making stuff up again.

I can't remember anyone from Leeds Rhinos proclaiming 2016's squad as the best ever. Do you have a link?
I do remember you tipping Leeds to finish top of the league though and didn't you tip them to win the GF too?

I might be wrong but I think Mr H might have proclaimed Leeds' 2015 squad as the best ever.
The year you bet against them even finishing in the top 4.

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 5:21 pm  

yep

Sal Paradise wrote:

Here you go

Regular season - 23 weeks
1. Leeds
2. Wigan
3. Warrington
4. Saints
5. Dragons
6. Giants
7. Hull FC
8. Salford

Top 4 Play off sides
1. Leeds
2. Dragons
3. Warrington
4. Wigan

Winners
GF - Leeds
CC - Dragons

With predictions like that it's almost like you thought this was one of the best Leeds squads ever.

Re: Leeds Rhinos 2017 Squad : Fri Oct 21, 2016 7:47 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Sometimes signings don't work out you just need to be big enough to admit you got it wrong?

Plenty of back slapping when it works not much contrition when it doesn't ?

They'll know they got it wrong, saying it in the press serves no purpose.

People have this fantasy of wanting GH to come out and say certain things about airing the club's dirty laundry in public and pretending it serves a helpful purpose rather than just their intrigue. Also it might be his genuine opinion that the issues around the training ground and injuries were the key problems......so what else do you want him to say? That the problems we've had are because of the same issues/flaws you think? If he doesn't think that then he's not going to say it.

They've said what they think the issues were, McDermott has said there were some other issues that he doesn't think right to make public (without knowing them that might be a fair thing to do). Funnily enough after the Leigh game I noticed McDermott mentioned that playing the Kiwis last year after the GF and keeping the players in training for an extra 2 weeks was far from ideal.