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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:21 am  
Relieved about what?

Leeds still have a middle 8's tournament to get through.
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Sat Jul 16, 2016 2:11 pm  
Is Lowes still around on the coaching staff? In addition to players coming back, the attitude for defence appears to have returned when he did.
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:16 pm  
It depends how old you are, what mindset you have, and how stable you are financially. As someone that saw Leeds win one piddling Premiership in his early years, the last 12 years have been blissful. I have the memories to cherish, and can also empathise with clubs that have little or no success. I will renew my season ticket next year because there is not a financial burden on myself, and I love my club.
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:46 pm  
I will be annoyed if we finish this year strongly and GH doesn't look at some major changes for next year as a result. For me that's a bigger long-term worry than the Middle 8s.
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Mon Jul 18, 2016 5:27 am  
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I will be annoyed if we finish this year strongly and GH doesn't look at some major changes for next year as a result. For me that's a bigger long-term worry than the Middle 8s.


I think we will blitz the middle 8's and GH will paint things as business as usual after the list of excuses why we were so bad for 3/4 of the year (see William for the list :wink: ). So no, i don't think anything will change too much, which doesn't fill me with a great deal of confidence for next year although i don't foresee a year anywhere near as trying as this.

i will add this. Although i feel we could do with a coaching change and have felt it was needed since the end of 2014, or was coming at least, On the flip side McDermott has always had credit in the bank and it would be nice to see him turn it full circle next year. if he is to remain as head coach, and although it is not what i would prefer to see, i would accept he has earned the right to have one more go.
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:33 am  
I agree that what you've painted is the most likely outcome, but McDermott surely couldn't survive another poor season - by that I mean anything other than top 4. So far he's only done that in two years out of 6 as coach. We've won trophies, which has earned him a lot of credit, but his regular season record apart from last year has been well below par and his win/loss ratio is down with Lance and Powell, and well below Tony Smith and McClennan.

Some of the responsibility for this record belongs with the senior players (including Sinfield and Peacock) who seemed to have developed the mindset that scraping into the play offs was enough as they'd turn it around when it matters. Last year nobody knew much except that you had to keep up with the leaders to have a real chance of winning the competition, and Sinfield and Peacock retiring no doubt focused attention on a weekly basis.

Rather than back up last year, this year we seem to have reverted to the view that things would somehow come right in the end. When you throw in the injuries and loss of experience (which in previous years would have been enough to blag a few wins even when playing badly) its probably not surprising that we are where we are as a result. There have been a couple of spells where the team has clearly not given anything like its best this year, and that has cost us a spot even in the top 8.

IMO the odd poor game is entirely understandable, but responsibility for multiple games on the trot and just awful capitulations like KR and Cas at home (how unbeatable have they looked before or since they put 50 on us BTW?) has to lie with the coach.

Perhaps most worryingly I don't have any sense of a plan to rebuild the team into one capable of winning trophies. We just seem to be signing players on an ad hoc basis, filling gaps as they develop. Segeyaro may turn out to be awesome, but that wasn't planned, just dumb luck. The Sinfield era team is gone and will never return - its time to create a new team. I just don't think McDermott is the man to do that, but if he stays I hope he proves me wrong.
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:45 am  
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I agree that what you've painted is the most likely outcome, but McDermott surely couldn't survive another poor season - by that I mean anything other than top 4. So far he's only done that in two years out of 6 as coach. We've won trophies, which has earned him a lot of credit, but his regular season record apart from last year has been well below par and his win/loss ratio is down with Lance and Powell, and well below Tony Smith and McClennan.

Some of the responsibility for this record belongs with the senior players (including Sinfield and Peacock) who seemed to have developed the mindset that scraping into the play offs was enough as they'd turn it around when it matters. Last year nobody knew much except that you had to keep up with the leaders to have a real chance of winning the competition, and Sinfield and Peacock retiring no doubt focused attention on a weekly basis.

Rather than back up last year, this year we seem to have reverted to the view that things would somehow come right in the end. When you throw in the injuries and loss of experience (which in previous years would have been enough to blag a few wins even when playing badly) its probably not surprising that we are where we are as a result. There have been a couple of spells where the team has clearly not given anything like its best this year, and that has cost us a spot even in the top 8.

IMO the odd poor game is entirely understandable, but responsibility for multiple games on the trot and just awful capitulations like KR and Cas at home (how unbeatable have they looked before or since they put 50 on us BTW?) has to lie with the coach.

Perhaps most worryingly I don't have any sense of a plan to rebuild the team into one capable of winning trophies. We just seem to be signing players on an ad hoc basis, filling gaps as they develop. Segeyaro may turn out to be awesome, but that wasn't planned, just dumb luck. The Sinfield era team is gone and will never return - its time to create a new team. I just don't think McDermott is the man to do that, but if he stays I hope he proves me wrong.


Keep Segyaro, sign an organising half of at least Sowards quality, and pay proper attention to our developing players when gearing up for the season (Baldwinso, Smith, and the polish guy especially) instead totally ignoring their development as we have seemed to have done in the last few years

Do these things and he will have a squad capable of at least challenging

Missing out on Gale was a big blow but hopefully GH has something in the works
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Wed Jul 20, 2016 12:51 pm  
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Keep Segyaro, sign an organising half of at least Sowards quality, and pay proper attention to our developing players when gearing up for the season (Baldwinso, Smith, and the polish guy especially) instead totally ignoring their development as we have seemed to have done in the last few years

Do these things and he will have a squad capable of at least challenging

Missing out on Gale was a big blow but hopefully GH has something in the works


I don't think we should underestimate the impact that Segeyaro has made. Leeds play with a very open and 'off the cuff' style, we're very expansive and improvising. To do this we need space and time which is exactly what Segeyaro has given us.

Retaining Chicko or finding a suitable replacement must be paramount to GH.
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:19 pm  
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I know Leeds have had their injury problems (I do watch Sky quite a lot) but they haven’t been alone. But there appears to be an appetite in the players once again, can anyone explain that one to me?

An extremely toxic element has been removed.

I'll spell it out because it hasn't sunk in with quite a number of fans.

H A R D A K E R

The toxic element above still retains a fanbase of fellow morons who hope he'll return to the club :CRAZY:
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Re: Annoyed or Relieved? : Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:09 pm  
Andy Gilder wrote:
Is Lowes still around on the coaching staff?


I hope so :lol: :wink:
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