Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Sun May 22, 2016 2:36 pm  

casben wrote:

We've won it from 5th before..............

You can't do that anymore though.

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Mon May 23, 2016 8:13 am  

Before Leeds can start thinking about winning a game, they need to be contesting for longer parts of the game. All looks a long way.

So talks about a Grand Final place are absolutely mental.

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Mon May 23, 2016 9:40 am  

If you win every single remaining game (15/15), you will end up on 36 points.

Last year that still wouldn't have got you into the top 4.

You can still get 500/1 for you to win the GF. Frankly 5,000,000/1 would be far too short a price.

I know McDermott has to be seen to be remaining positive and believing in his team, but come on Brian, do yourself a favour.

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Mon May 23, 2016 11:53 am  

Look it's perfectly plausible to believe that having just won 3 from 15 a 15 from 15 could be about to happen - starting at Warrington on Friday.

Leeds' Regular Round record V Warrington at the Helliwell Jones under McDermott of played 5, won 0, drawn 0, lost 5, avg score Warrington 28 - 14 Leeds is testament to that belief.

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Mon May 23, 2016 12:34 pm  

Wigg'n wrote:

casben wrote:

We've won it from 5th before..............

You can't do that anymore though.

Can you win it from 12th then?

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Mon May 23, 2016 12:48 pm  

He needs to accept you lot are now in a battle to stay up. Gotta try target 10th for that extra home game. Playing the likes of Leigh Bradford and fev away with say widnes and salford and suddenly that middle 8s has an ugly feel to it. I know you have players to come back but losing becomes a habit and a tough 1 to get out of.

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Mon May 23, 2016 5:38 pm  

Towns88 wrote:

He needs to accept you lot are now in a battle to stay up. Gotta try target 10th for that extra home game. Playing the likes of Leigh Bradford and fev away with say widnes and salford and suddenly that middle 8s has an ugly feel to it. I know you have players to come back but losing becomes a habit and a tough 1 to get out of.

Who'd have thought we would have been aiming quite so high at the begining of the season ..... 10th at the moment looks just as far away as McDermott's claimed legitimate aim for the GF

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Mon May 23, 2016 11:28 pm  

There comes a point when it would be more comforting to hear people at the club start talking about survival. Banging on about winning the comp, top 4 or even top 8 was OK up to about a month ago, but recent results ought to lead to some public recognition of the state we're in.

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Tue May 24, 2016 5:09 pm  

McDermott's post match interview ended with a '3 or 4 wins away from 8th'. Without some huge points difference swing it's looking like it's the latter figure but it's only the 4 wins away if the other clubs all trying to make the eight all lose. Leeds could win a game (however unlikely that appears at present) and still be the same 4 wins away. It's out of Leeds' hands already and rightly so with a 3 from 15 (3 from 17 all comps) season to date.

Re: In McDermott's own words - Delusional !!! : Tue May 24, 2016 11:06 pm  

Agreed. I said weeks ago re the top 4 that as soon as you're in the world of having to use maths to prove you can still do things, you're on a loser. Particularly when the maths ignores not only results to date (which are generally the best guide to moving forward) and actual form. To make the 8 we must be pretty close to needing a bizarre set of results from all other teams as well as winning close to all our games.