Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:01 pm  

50/50 for me too. And Warrington are so poor they've hammered us twice

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:03 pm  

Tony Soprano wrote:

Wish I was as confident as you two, its a 50/50 for me this one, the 2 league games are irrelevant on friday

Dunno whether LeedsDave was serious but my response to him was tongue in cheek. 50/50 seems about right, if pushed I'd go 51/49 in our favour.

[Frosties.]

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:11 pm  

Hardaker
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sinfield McGuire
Leuluai Aiton Peacock
Ablett Delaney
Cuthbertson

Burrow JJB Singleton Keinhorst / Ward

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:15 pm  

Hubris going to get you.
I'm never confident going in to any game with Saints.
Or Wigan, or Warrington.
Suffered too many defeats to take anything for granted.
I treat any win against them as a bonus.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:15 pm  

I would much rather see

Hardaker
Briscoe
Watkins
Moon
Hall

Sinfield
McGuire

Kylie
Aiton
Peacock
Ward/JJB
Ablett
Cuthbertson

JJB/Burrow (depending on Wards fitness?)
Garbutt
Singleton
Delaney

If Ward is fit I would rather drop Burrow and take four forwards on the bench. Facing Roby at hooker I just don't want Burrow near that.
If Ward isn't fit then the last bench spot goes to Burrow by default really. If he has a stormer i'll eat my words but I just don't think he will have a big enough impact to offset his deficiencies in the Hooker role. We just lose too much.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 1:21 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

Hardaker
Briscoe Watkins Moon Hall
Sinfield McGuire
Leuluai Aiton Peacock
Ablett Delaney
Cuthbertson

Burrow JJB Singleton Keinhorst / Ward

No Garbutt?

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:44 pm  

According to the YEP Ticket Sales are some what "slow" for Friday.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:47 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

Dunno whether LeedsDave was serious but my response to him was tongue in cheek. 50/50 seems about right, if pushed I'd go 51/49 in our favour.

Yeh .. just thought a nice positive post in support of our team was what we needed.

Obviously it probably won't be quite that easy...

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:57 pm  

Tony Soprano wrote:

Wish I was as confident as you two, its a 50/50 for me this one, the 2 league games are irrelevant on friday

In a way they're irrelevant but also can't help looking at them and saying the key is whether Saints have learnt some lessons defensively for this weeks game compared to those two previous meetings. Especially Luke Walsh, missed 6 tackles at Headingley and had a 'mare and his missed tackles numbers over the last several games don't make for good reading. If he's still defending on Saints' left side on Friday then the target for us is to get Watkins against him and hope he's on song and has a field day against Walsh.

Just had a look back at the stats for the league games. 48 missed tackles for Saints at Langtree Park, 46 missed tackles at Headingley.....those numbers need to come down massively.

Re: St Helens CC Semi Final Friday 8pm BBC2 : Mon Jul 27, 2015 5:58 pm  

RhinoLaney wrote:

According to the YEP Ticket Sales are some what "slow" for Friday.

It's a shame, but the kick off day and time has killed any chance of a decent crowd. Obviously Saints fans won't be affected on their 7 mile "trek", but too many people have suffered the nightmare of Friday nights across the M62 and will instead just flick the TV on button in a few days time. It's OK for me I'm self employed, I'll just lose a few hours pay and set off before the bedlam commences, picking up my old fella from Whinmoor en route. It's not that easy for some other people, and the RFL don't give a sh** about spectator welfare, so the one's that travel will just have to shout twice as loud