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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 7:30 am  
Alred started off in League, though you would be hard pressed to find much written evidence of it.
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 10:55 am  
Sinfield, IIRC did a lot of work with Jon Callard when he was at Leeds Tykes, rather than Wilkinson. He was certainly criticised in some quarters during his early years when he was less consistent. I'm not saying Sutcliffe will ever be the answer but to write him off at such a young age is wrong as well. I'm surprised that Hardaker hasn't done it this year though - think he's ahead of Sutcliffe at the moment.
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 11:05 am  
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Sinfield, IIRC did a lot of work with Jon Callard when he was at Leeds Tykes, rather than Wilkinson. He was certainly criticised in some quarters during his early years when he was less consistent. I'm not saying Sutcliffe will ever be the answer but to write him off at such a young age is wrong as well. I'm surprised that Hardaker hasn't done it this year though - think he's ahead of Sutcliffe at the moment.

Maybe because Hardakers long term prospects at the club looked a bit shaky at the start of the season
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 11:15 am  
IMV both Hardaker & Sutcliffe should be spending time on their goalkicking.
Anything to improve your value to the team & to increase your attractiveness to other teams if it doesn't work out at your current club.
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 11:18 am  
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Maybe because Hardakers long term prospects at the club looked a bit shaky at the start of the season


I considered that, but that would almost be like letting Sutcliffe kick instead of Sinfield at times. Another reason might be that he is often the person who fields the next kick off and it was a more difficult transition whereas Kev only has to wander back to the 40. I guess if there isn't much to choose between them then exploring Sutcliffe as an option makes sense.
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 11:25 am  
Do you think that being a good goal kicker is one of the attributes being considered for the rumoured new halfback signing that GH wants?
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 11:35 am  
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I don't think you can ever "create" a great goal kicker, a natural gift is what makes the great kickers stand out.


Pat Richards had only kicked 4 goals before he got the job at Wigan, he didn't do so badly. There may have been some talent there, but constant practice helped too.
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 12:15 pm  
Practice and coaching can make an average goalkicker into a top one. Henry Paul never kicked goals until he joined us. He has most of the club records for it now.
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 5:15 pm  
Ive never understood why, if you were a young player looking to make you way in the game you would spend hours becoming an outstanding goal kicker. It seems a relatively easy way to not only differentiate yourself, but can make an otherwise 'good' player, indispensable.
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Re: Goal Kicking : Fri May 29, 2015 6:48 pm  
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Ive never understood why, if you were a young player looking to make you way in the game you would spend hours becoming an outstanding goal kicker. It seems a relatively easy way to not only differentiate yourself, but can make an otherwise 'good' player, indispensable.

Agree with that. It's also something you can do a lot of on your own time.
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