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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 12:02 am  
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:20 am  
Apologies to both of you. If that's the worst insult you've ever had then you're either very lucky or very young!
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:19 am  
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You can restrict the scrum to only being allowed to move so many metres forwards. You don't have to have scrums like in Union. I still don't see why a team would concede a penalty along with 20-30m.

Why? Again that's illogical. Less mobile forwards means bigger gaps in defences.


It partly didn't happen in the old days because they were a mess with hookers and front rows kicking hell out of each other. You can clean that up. Of course most would still be won by the team with head and feed. But it'd give teams a chance if they wanted to. Especially teams who know they're not as fast/strong as the other teams in the league they can work toward being a possession team. Who kick well and put their opposition under pressure by winning the odd scrum against the head. Even if they don't they'd make each scrum a contest for the other team and tire their forwards a little. It might help what I call the 2nd tier teams both domestically and internationally compete more with the top teams.

indeed they do. But often in not "spectator conducive" ways. Ie it can be a bit boring to see drive after drive followed by a high kick done time after time until the defence drops it.

I may well be wrong, I don't claim to have all the answers, I just reckon contested scrums could make the game better to watch through more open defences and allow the likes of France a way of competing with England by making another tactic available to them.


So what happens when a scrum advances the ten metres how do you stop the momentum - Penalty to the side moving backwards if they go beyond 10 metres?

The one thing you don't want is a slow lardy prop when the game is getting faster - you wont need them in contested scrum like you are proposing so they will just disappear and you will 5 second rowers and 3 second rowers on the bench.

You don't watch enough NRL if you think all they do is 5 plays and a kick - the skill is far greater especially the accuracy and speed of the passing and the ability to create overlaps. The top sides are superb to watch the skill levels are on a different planet to what we see here - perhaps if we got our skill levels up first before we start manipulating game?
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:30 am  
No amount of fiddling with the interchange system could polish the t**d that was on Sky last night.
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:41 am  
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No amount of fiddling with the interchange system could polish the t**d that was on Sky last night.


Every minute counts!! - Yet another terrible televised game on a Thursday.

The standard outside of the top 4/5 is appalling at the moment - there is currently enough good players to fill 8 teams at the most.
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:27 am  
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Every minute counts!! - Yet another terrible televised game on a Thursday.

The standard outside of the top 4/5 is appalling at the moment - there is currently enough good players to fill 8 teams at the most.


A problem, and one the alluded to in commentary, is the away performances of sides. Widnes are a handy side at home but very poor away. Beforehand I gave them more chance of them beating Saints at home the other week (and they gave them a fight) than I did of beating Salford last night.

HKR beat Wigan at home and almost beat us, but got beaten easily by Wakey away and lost to Widnes away
Widnes lost comfortably away to Salford
Salford lost comfortably away to Cas
Cas lost comfortably away and nilled at Hudds

Away wins are a rarity it seems especially down the bottom end. And it's not just that they aren't winning.....most like Widnes last night, don't even look close to winning sometimes when away from home.

Hell even Wigan haven't won away since last July which is 7 games and it's not like they were the hardest 7 games.....2 vs Widnes, 2 vs HKR, 1 vs Leeds, Cas, Bradford.
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:32 am  
I think it all shows the lack of depth at some clubs.
No Kevin Brown or Danny Tickle for Widnes so they struggle especially away from their artificial pitch.

Wakefield are bound to suffer a big defeat this weekend I think for exactly the same reason - lack of depth.

Incidentally, I saw no reason last night to bemoan the loss of BJB. But I do accept that he would likely, currently be a better short-term stand-in than young Handley.
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:23 pm  
Fair points Printer

Old Feller - thought Liam Hood had a good game tough
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 2:26 pm  
I agree Hood looked lively but not much of a test against that opposition.
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Re: Interchange review : Fri Mar 27, 2015 5:56 pm  
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A problem, and one the alluded to in commentary, is the away performances of sides. Widnes are a handy side at home but very poor away. Beforehand I gave them more chance of them beating Saints at home the other week (and they gave them a fight) than I did of beating Salford last night.

HKR beat Wigan at home and almost beat us, but got beaten easily by Wakey away and lost to Widnes away
Widnes lost comfortably away to Salford
Salford lost comfortably away to Cas
Cas lost comfortably away and nilled at Hudds

Away wins are a rarity it seems especially down the bottom end. And it's not just that they aren't winning.....most like Widnes last night, don't even look close to winning sometimes when away from home.

Hell even Wigan haven't won away since last July which is 7 games and it's not like they were the hardest 7 games.....2 vs Widnes, 2 vs HKR, 1 vs Leeds, Cas, Bradford.


Well I guess if your preparation for an away game seems to be to forbid anyone other than the dummy half to pass, watch all kicks as if somone else is going to deal with it and stand as flat footed as you can on defence then you really have no chance. Salford were dire as well, but I guess when all they had to do was 5 drives and any crappy kick to score then maybe you can't expect any skilfull attacking football.
Hatefully boring, joyless game of rugby.
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