Re: Hunslet friendly : Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:10 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

No I'm just curious about your claim a few posts up.

You (and a few others) tell us that McDermott continues to pick the 'old hands' because he likes their backs to wall, in-the-trenches style attitudes......but then we are also told the team selection is based on player power of those same guys demanding to be played and McDermott caves in to them?

Which one is it? Does he pick them out of loyalty and their his favourites or does he pick them because player power rules and he has no choice? Posters manage to accuse him of both even though they're fundamentally contradictory statements.

It's obvious really Printer: McDermott considers himself one of the (senior) lads and they're all in it together.

It's a 'team team selection' with McDermott figurehead head of the team ( a bit like the queen with her constitutonal 'powers' )

(Note the correct one of there/their/they're by the way ....it's quite easy really)

Re: Hunslet friendly : Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:28 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

It's obvious really Printer: McDermott considers himself one of the (senior) lads and they're all in it together.

It's a 'team team selection' with McDermott figurehead head of the team ( a bit like the queen with her constitutonal 'powers' )

Translation = "I like to come up with various claims about McDermott/players/club because surely my suggested team lineups would be miles better."

Nantwich exile wrote:

(Note the correct one of there/their/they're by the way ....it's quite easy really)

I did actually notice that before I pressed submit and was about to change it......but then I thought f**k it, it bugs him.

Re: Hunslet friendly : Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:36 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Translation = "I like to come up with various claims about McDermott/players/club because surely my suggested team lineups would be miles better."

I did actually notice that before I pressed submit and was about to change it......but then I thought f**k it, it bugs him.

1st point: maybe....just maybe

2ns point: whatever!

Re: Hunslet friendly : Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:38 pm  

nantwichexile wrote:

2ns point: whatever!

2nd not 2ns

Re: Hunslet friendly : Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:18 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

2nd not 2ns

Bugger!

Re: Hunslet friendly : Sat Jan 24, 2015 5:23 am  

ThePrinter wrote:

No I'm just curious about your claim a few posts up.

You (and a few others) tell us that McDermott continues to pick the 'old hands' because he likes their backs to wall, in-the-trenches style attitudes......but then we are also told the team selection is based on player power of those same guys demanding to be played and McDermott caves in to them?

Which one is it? Does he pick them out of loyalty and their his favourites or does he pick them because player power rules and he has no choice? Posters manage to accuse him of both even though they're fundamentally contradictory statements.

Histroy tells you there has been a significant element of player power at Leeds, look at the departure of the previous four coaches.
McDermott would be a fool not to want to get the senior players on side when CEO allows this behaviour to occur. So when Sinfield says I no longer want to play in the forwards then McDermott is very unlikely to say no even though it will completely disrupt the whole set up of the team.

Another example would be JJB in the play off game at Wigan in 2013 - no way he should have played but McDermott wasn't strong enough to do the right ting by the team as a whole and once again caved in.

The really top coaches like Ferguson, Bennett, Brailsford etc are strong enough to show the players who is the decision maker

Re: Hunslet friendly : Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:14 am  

Are we still peddling this "Sinfield dictates where he plays" thing, off the basis of a comment I think he made some years ago about moving to six extending his career?

Re: Hunslet friendly : Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:16 am  

sinfield played 6 in juniors as well as the 2004 grand final. hardly a new thing

Re: Hunslet friendly : Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:41 pm  

[quote="tad rhino"]sinfield played 6 in juniors as well as the 2004 grand final. hardly a new thing[/quote?]
When Tony Smith does it is tactical ability. When Mcdermott does it is because sinfield demanded it

Re: Hunslet friendly : Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:08 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Histroy tells you there has been a significant element of player power at Leeds, look at the departure of the previous four coaches.
McDermott would be a fool not to want to get the senior players on side when CEO allows this behaviour to occur. So when Sinfield says I no longer want to play in the forwards then McDermott is very unlikely to say no even though it will completely disrupt the whole set up of the team.

Another example would be JJB in the play off game at Wigan in 2013 - no way he should have played but McDermott wasn't strong enough to do the right ting by the team as a whole and once again caved in.

The really top coaches like Ferguson, Bennett, Brailsford etc are strong enough to show the players who is the decision maker

Would this be the same coach and CEO who have let the likes of Senior, Webb, Ali and now Bailey and Kirke leave the club???

How did it work out when Tony Smith played Senior in the 2005 CC Final???

Sinfield has stated a preference to play in the halves yes, has he demanded it and refused to play in the forwards.....only dreamt up in some people's minds. Ablett and Stevie Ward have both stated a preference to play in the back row, hell if you ask any player they'll have a preference, it's just that Sinfield's is more well known to the public.

its actually quite embarrassing that some people who have witnessed the last 10 years or so of this club think that certain players only get picked because of player power and not because they've proven many times what they can do and did again in the CC semi and final in 2014 (even though you don't like to acknowledge this happened as it doesn't help your argument). Yes I know your reply will be that they didn't manage it in the playoffs in a game they should've won.....but had th fringe & next-in-line players had done the simple task of beating London and Bradford then we wouldn't have had to go full strength post CC Final, nor would we have finished outside the top 4.

How many of the fringe players have actually made themselves un-droppable when they've got a chance really? I expect that it's McDermott's fault and he's not letting them shine properly, but reality is has Sutcliffe done what Hardaker did in 2012 when he grabbed his chance in the FB spot and made it impossible to drop him? Has a Achurch or Stevie Ward? No, they haven't.