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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:01 pm  
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If Catalan finish 2nd which is very possible looking at the fixtures then they have a great chance of getting to Old Trafford. 2 home times in the playoffs should they win there first game with a break in the middle meaning that they dont have to fly back to england until a possible GF. they have the players and the coach but the constant flying back and forth is not good preparation so a solid month without travelling would be good for them.


I think they'll be lucky to finish top 4 from their fixtures tbh, starting with a loss tonight.

I think we can catch Catalans.
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:06 pm  
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I agree wholeheartedly and it's something I've said on here a few times.

The playoffs were a damp squib last year and Leeds display at Warrington saved them. Too many teams are in the playoffs to make up the numbers. If they follow our example the whole intensity of the playoffs should lift, but I won't hold my breath.

Leeds winning from 5th should give all clubs in the playoffs the inspiration but how many will follow our lead?


that game was one the best sporting moments of 2011, brilliant game i accidentally deleted it from the Sky box.
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:22 pm  
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The fans of Catalans, Huddersfield and Hull FC will all think they can win the GF, but in reality they can't.

Why can't they? Everyone, including you, would have said the same thing about Leeds this time last year and everyone was saying the same thing about Leeds just three weeks ago.

There is no earthly reason why Catalan can't go on a run and win it. I am not suggesting they will, but to say they "can't" is too far IMO.
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:43 pm  
I take your point that its a pretty strong view, but ultimately they will not be able to win 3 games against top sides in consecutive weeks. Maybe I should have added IMO, as I suppose that's what it is.

I notice you only single out Catalans by the way, so I assume you agree about Huddersfield and Hull FC?
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:11 pm  
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I notice you only single out Catalans by the way, so I assume you agree about Huddersfield and Hull FC?

No I don't agree they "can't". I would suggest they "won't" might be better wording, IMO, of course.
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:10 pm  
The likes of Hull and Huddersfield may or may not be good enough to make it all the way to the GF but it would be nice to at least see them go down with a fight. Hull's last 2 playoff campaigns have ended in very weak showings against Leeds last year and at home against their big rivals KR in 2010. Huddersfield's record over the last 3 years is 2-5 and should of been 0-6 if not for the Crusaders sin-binning i mentioned before. Catalan to be fair gave it the best shot of any of the none Leeds/Saints/Wigan clubs in 2009 when they went away to Wakey, Hudds and then Leeds and if Greg Bird had stayed out there who knows. It will be tremendously tough for a club who hasn't yet won a GF to do it from so far back yet not impossible if they go in with a 'we can do this' attitude.

I've even now read on the Saints board several posters saying how they hope to get 3rd place instead of 4th as they want to avoid Wigan in the playoffs and again this is the problem, if you go around fearing teams and hoping someone else might beat them so you don't have to face them then that's the wrong attitude. The best way to get rid of a team is to go do it yourself and not wishing someone else does the job for you. Will it be harder? Yes but what's wrong with facing the harder challenges in life? The sweeter it will taste if you do succeed i reckon.

Reading some comments since the Cup Semi draw was made it seems as if some Leeds fan would of preferred us to of been knock out in the Quarters because we might get ''embarrassed or humiliated'' and won't be attending because of this......sorry didn't realise that the possiblity of 17 guys getting several tries scored past them could make you blush. Thankfully for the sport, the players of the teams of Leeds and Saints haven't shared this same mindset over the years as a section of their fans.
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:11 pm  
Watch out for Huddersfield in the playoffs.

Brown is working to a new calendar - they've had their slump through June and July, so by the time it gets to September it'll feel like a whole new season.

You can see why Saints thought he was the answer to their perpetual chokery.
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:55 pm  
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The likes of Hull and Huddersfield may or may not be good enough to make it all the way to the GF but it would be nice to at least see them go down with a fight. Hull's last 2 playoff campaigns have ended in very weak showings against Leeds last year and at home against their big rivals KR in 2010. Huddersfield's record over the last 3 years is 2-5 and should of been 0-6 if not for the Crusaders sin-binning i mentioned before. Catalan to be fair gave it the best shot of any of the none Leeds/Saints/Wigan clubs in 2009 when they went away to Wakey, Hudds and then Leeds and if Greg Bird had stayed out there who knows. It will be tremendously tough for a club who hasn't yet won a GF to do it from so far back yet not impossible if they go in with a 'we can do this' attitude.

I've even now read on the Saints board several posters saying how they hope to get 3rd place instead of 4th as they want to avoid Wigan in the playoffs and again this is the problem, if you go around fearing teams and hoping someone else might beat them so you don't have to face them then that's the wrong attitude. The best way to get rid of a team is to go do it yourself and not wishing someone else does the job for you. Will it be harder? Yes but what's wrong with facing the harder challenges in life? The sweeter it will taste if you do succeed i reckon.

Reading some comments since the Cup Semi draw was made it seems as if some Leeds fan would of preferred us to of been knock out in the Quarters because we might get ''embarrassed or humiliated'' and won't be attending because of this......sorry didn't realise that the possiblity of 17 guys getting several tries scored past them could make you blush. Thankfully for the sport, the players of the teams of Leeds and Saints haven't shared this same mindset over the years as a section of their fans.


I agree, Leeds have turned up in big semi's and finals (including last years CC) and either won or gone down with a real fight in the last 10 year to give me hope for Saturday.
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:02 pm  
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Reading some comments since the Cup Semi draw was made it seems as if some Leeds fan would of preferred us to of been knock out in the Quarters because we might get ''embarrassed or humiliated'' and won't be attending because of this......sorry didn't realise that the possiblity of 17 guys getting several tries scored past them could make you blush. Thankfully for the sport, the players of the teams of Leeds and Saints haven't shared this same mindset over the years as a section of their fans.

The very first thing a guy said to me on the way out of the Keepmoat last season was "What will Wigan do to us?". I found that pretty embarrassing to be honest and didn't hesitate to tell him to just bloody enjoy himself and let the players worry about the final.
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Re: 4th Spot - the poisoned chalice? : Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:35 pm  
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Watch out for Huddersfield in the playoffs.

Brown is working to a new calendar - they've had their slump through June and July, so by the time it gets to September it'll feel like a whole new season.

You can see why Saints thought he was the answer to their perpetual chokery.


That's probably not far wrong.

There's always the possibility though, they don't emerge from their slumber and hit form, which i wouldn't bet against either.
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