Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:19 pm  

DHM wrote:

I'd try McGuire at full back. Burrow at 7 and Ward at 6, Sinfield back to 13. Give Webb a rest and a chance to think about controlling his game better.
I'd stick Hardaker on the wing and let him get a feel for how frustrating it might be for Hall at the moment.

1. McGuire.
2. Hardaker
3. Smith
4. Ablett
5. Hall
6. Ward
7. Burrow

Another option might be to keep Webb and let Mags play 4 with Ablett at 3. Mags defends at 4 anyway, Hardaker is all over the shop.

1. Hardaker
2. Chislom
3. Ablett
4. Senior
5. Hall

6. Ward
7. McGuire

13. Sinfield

14. Burrow

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:23 pm  

Don't know about the attack, but I can't stand halfbacks defending in the centres. A lot of centres now are as big as second rows and much quicker. A small guy is still going to face bigger guys running at him, and if anything is made an easier target for the attack. A slow halfback like Sinfield is just going to get skinned against a quick centre. Souths tried to hide Sandow there last season and opposing teams aimed attacks at him all day, often to good effect. Playing your halfbacks one in from the centre at least means they have cover both inside and outside.

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:08 pm  

BrisbaneRhino wrote:

Don't know about the attack, but I can't stand halfbacks defending in the centres. A lot of centres now are as big as second rows and much quicker. A small guy is still going to face bigger guys running at him, and if anything is made an easier target for the attack. A slow halfback like Sinfield is just going to get skinned against a quick centre. Souths tried to hide Sandow there last season and opposing teams aimed attacks at him all day, often to good effect. Playing your halfbacks one in from the centre at least means they have cover both inside and outside.

It's a point I've made a few times since Friday but Tony Smith sent Atkins at Sinfield all night long and they got lots of joy from it. We didn't appear to adjust.

We sent Delaney at Briers once and got a try.

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:13 pm  

Does anyone know the latest on Webb's injury? I don't see McDermott dropping him unless he's injured but if he misses a few games it will be interesting to see how we go selection-wise.
When Webb went off against Warrington, McDermott could of easily moved Hardaker over to the right wing with BJB going to full-back so that might show that BJB isn't going to be the number 1 next year.
Would like to see Hardaker starting there with Keinhorst given a chance in centre but i think we might well end up playing Smith at full-back in Webb's potential absence.

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:19 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

Does anyone know the latest on Webb's injury? I don't see McDermott dropping him unless he's injured but if he misses a few games it will be interesting to see how we go selection-wise.
When Webb went off against Warrington, McDermott could of easily moved Hardaker over to the right wing with BJB going to full-back so that might show that BJB isn't going to be the number 1 next year.
Would like to see Hardaker starting there with Keinhorst given a chance in centre but i think we might well end up playing Smith at full-back in Webb's potential absence.

Hardaker to Fullback and should be Number 1 as of next Season.

Lee Smith should be shipped out!

Millard should be signed to fill the Left Centre Position if Big Keith goes to Hull KR or Castleford.

We need our Forwards to play as Forwards and our Backs to play as Backs.

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:45 pm  

Middleton_Loiner wrote:

Hardaker to Fullback and should be Number 1 as of next Season.

Lee Smith should be shipped out!

Millard should be signed to fill the Left Centre Position if Big Keith goes to Hull KR or Castleford.

We need our Forwards to play as Forwards and our Backs to play as Backs.

That what makes these next few games quite interesting for the club if Webb is absent, they could have a big say in the way we go personnel-wise for 2013.
A, If Hardaker is picked at Fullback how will he go and will he show he should be wearing the number 1 shirt next year? If he plays poor though it requires another rethink.
B, If Keinhorst then fills the left centre role how will he perform, a good showing (all be it against bottom half of the table teams) followed by continued selection thereafter and he might secure the number 4 shirt next year without having to sign anyone. Hardaker did that last year with only a couple of games at centre to his name so it is possible.
C, If Smith gets a start at fullback or centre then it could really be his last good shot at Leeds, fail and he might well be gone.

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 6:52 pm  

G1 wrote:

I can see what you're saying but isn't he just too small?

What about Danny? Been tried in year's past. Has worked a treat for Tomkins.

Not quick enough and doesn't have the ability to easily beat a man since the injury. If I were a forward chasing a kick the last thing I would want is Burrow running at me.

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:32 pm  

Imo Burrow is too small for fb just from the point of taking the high kicks. Surely he would get outjumped too often.
Some of the other qualities needed he could be a great success. His kick returns could be outstanding, his one on one defence is good and he could provide better ball to the wings than Hardaker even though thats not the strongest part of his game.

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:33 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Not quick enough and doesn't have the ability to easily beat a man since the injury. If I were a forward chasing a kick the last thing I would want is Burrow running at me.

True....but I don't fancy a leaping Burrow under a well executed high bomb with the same said forwards chasing it down.

Hardaker to FB for me with Keinhorst given a run in the LC position. (or maybe a Hall/Chisholm combination).

Re: Team Formation : Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:45 pm  

If Hardaker can't pass, why does everyone want to move him to what's the prime pivot position in the modern game?