Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:56 am  

Les Norton wrote:

James Lowes is a highly rated coach

By who? Nobody in Wire or Bradford.

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:56 am  

chapylad wrote:

So if we win the next 4 games does Lowes get the job next season?
Let's hope the old friends act doesn't take effect when Sinny keeps Ablett, JJB and Delaney for another season and hopes Moon will eventually become the SO we are looking for and Sutcliffe is given another chance in yet another position in the starting line up.
Whilst I'm delighted Sinfield is back I would prefer to see an established coach from the NRL working alongside him.
Apart from Sinny apparently doing all the coaching alongside JP when he was playing. Does he have any official coaching skills on his cv?

Sinfield doesn't need coaching skills - his job is to motivate the whole organisation to deliver its potential - its all about strategy/man management/direction, something he has demonstrated on numerous occasions in the past.

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:58 am  

Nothus wrote:

By who? Nobody in Wire or Bradford.

I’m specifically referring to him as ‘coach’. A role which is his strength

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:07 am  

This is a risky move for both Sinfield and Hetherington.

There's a precedent out there that ex-players close to retirement don't make good coaches. I hope Sinfield can show us a different outcome.

If this is a move to gradually replace GH with Sinfield then I'm happy with that. The on-field side of things I'm more concerned about. I suppose the rationale with Lowes is that a coach of greater stature (Furner, Kearney etc) would not accept a similar position of being subordinate to Sinfield. Lowes could also be easy to replace if things don't work out in the short-term.

The immediate objective is to secure a place in the top 8. Hopefully the euphoria of Sinfield returning will be enough to bring about that change.

In the longer-term, I have no idea what this means for the brand of rugby Leeds will play. Again, the hope is that Sinfield will deliver the brand of attacking rugby most of us want to see, but many of the notable wins he presided over as captain were dour grinding performances. For a long time he had to live with the consequences of not 'taking the two', and however much the current team could benefit from a safety first approach, I hope this is not what we see next season and beyond.

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:09 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Sinfield doesn't need coaching skills - his job is to motivate the whole organisation to deliver its potential - its all about strategy/man management/direction, something he has demonstrated on numerous occasions in the past.

Don't disagree with that but im sure it was said that he would be selecting the team aswell. I don't see how he can be in charge of picking the team without having some input into how they are going to play, which is surely the role of the coach.
If he was coming to just take over the duties of GH that would be different but this role seems to be much more than that

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:11 am  

The appointment of Sinfield is clearly a first step into retirement for GH. The fact that he comes in now is simply to placate the worried masses. I'd fully expect another coaching appointment to be made at the end of this season for 2019 and beyond, along with a number of new players.

I did smile when Gary said that "all of our players have performed to outstanding levels over their time here, but not necessarily this season". No 5h!t Sherlock...

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:15 am  

A big positive for me is the thought of the promising juniors coming through having Burrow and Sinfield as role models. I can't think of 2 better from the golden generation to mentor the next batch.

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:17 am  

Very underwhelmed to be honest.

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:21 am  

me too. a top coach and sinfield alongside Gary learning the job would have been perfect for me

Re: Sir Kevin Sinfield - Is back : Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:22 am  

Is this the start of Hetherington's "exit plan"? He's 64, could probably afford to spend more time on the golf course if that's how he wants to spend his time, he has basically overseen the stadium redevelopment and is starting to hand over responsibilities. Sinfield has been public before about not wanting a coaching job, so is he basically being mentored for Hetherington's?