Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:47 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

There's now a coach that the players have no respect for, that's the biggest change.

If that is the case how do you explain your poor finish to last season, that wasn't Millwards fault was it?

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:49 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

If that is the case how do you explain your poor finish to last season, that wasn't Millwards fault was it?

No but at that point the team also had more injured players than fit ones. Including every prop at the club being out injured at one point.

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:17 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

No but at that point the team also had more injured players than fit ones. Including every prop at the club being out injured at one point.

I don't see how you can pin Millward with the owner or whoever wanting out and a couple of players apparently wanting to leave! Wire is allegedly the club after Clark and they are very much in the business of poaching other club's young players instead of promoting from within. Saints lost James Graham, Kyle Eastmond and Leon Pryce last season. Sometimes players leave clubs; sometimes they join them. You've just signed Jamie Ellis who loved playing for Millward, as did all the Leigh team so far as I can see and so did the Saints team under him.

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:16 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

I don't see how you can pin Millward with the owner or whoever wanting out and a couple of players apparently wanting to leave! Wire is allegedly the club after Clark and they are very much in the business of poaching other club's young players instead of promoting from within. Saints lost James Graham, Kyle Eastmond and Leon Pryce last season. Sometimes players leave clubs; sometimes they join them. You've just signed Jamie Ellis who loved playing for Millward, as did all the Leigh team so far as I can see and so did the Saints team under him.

hmmm. Basil is a coach that is very difficult to judge.
Excellent at Saints. the worst coach that wigan have ever seen.
OK for Leigh - but thats not exactly a high pressure position.

Was Basil lucky to inherit a team at saints ? or did he build it himself ?
because at Wigan he appeared to have no clue in the transfer market, and destroyed the players confidence by playing them out of position.

If Cas have inherited the Wigan version - then nothing that is happening comes as a surprise

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:28 pm  

TBF to Millward, he seems to be the only one commited to the cas cause, what with the chief exec rumoured to be wanting to jump ship, and players wanting to jump ship!!!

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:30 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

and players wanting to jump ship!!!

That's because of Millward, nothing else.

The club need to get shut of him now, it might cost money now but it will generate money in the long term because the crowds will drop even further if he stays in charge.

I wouldn't say he's in on the Cas cause either, he's helped Leigh more this year than he has Cas!

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:37 pm  

How do you know all this for a fact Gronky??

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:42 pm  

kinleycat wrote:

How do you know all this for a fact Gronky??

It's plainly obvious for all to see, Mathers knows all about it and I think it's the way Mildred handled Mathers that turned the players.

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:53 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

It's plainly obvious for all to see, Mathers knows all about it and I think it's the way Mildred handled Mathers that turned the players.

So you have no substance of fact. Your hypothesising on the claims of a player, which didn't tell both sides and even then that's flimsy.

Re: Our club is in turmoil.......... : Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:57 pm  

Fully wrote:

So you have no substance of fact. Your hypothesising on the claims of a player, which didn't tell both sides and even then that's flimsy.

I know you'll believe the clubs version of events on what happened but I'll take Mathers version of events, they sum Millward up to a tee.