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Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 9:42 am
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There's been a few comments on here lately about Fax's ambition or lack of it. Finance has been mentioned as a reason for a lack of ambition and obviously it helps massively but surely you can have dreams and goals even without loadsamoney. For anyone who doubts this I have one word....Castleford. Four years ago they were within 30 minutes of going bust. Just look at them now. SL final, league leaders shield, full houses in their new ground, err perhaps not, :roll: but you get the jist. All week the tv has been Cas, Cas, Cas and good look to 'em but if a town with half the population of Halifax can do this, why can't we? It's called having ambition. Where there's a will there's a way. So I say let's all get behind the club in what could, instead of just plodding along hoping to make the top four in the 2nd division, be a new start with the aim of finally topping this league and getting Fax back to where I believe we belong. We will be doing our bit by getting season tickets for the 1st time in a couple of years and buying the new shirts. Together we can make Fax great again after far too long. Up The Fax! :thumb:
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Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:03 am
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Re: Ambition
Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:49 am
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Hudd-Shay wrote:
There's been a few comments on here lately about Fax's ambition or lack of it. Finance has been mentioned as a reason for a lack of ambition and obviously it helps massively but surely you can have dreams and goals even without loadsamoney. For anyone who doubts this I have one word....Castleford. Four years ago they were within 30 minutes of going bust. Just look at them now. SL final, league leaders shield, full houses in their new ground, err perhaps not, :roll: but you get the jist. All week the tv has been Cas, Cas, Cas and good look to 'em but if a town with half the population of Halifax can do this, why can't we? It's called having ambition. Where there's a will there's a way. So I say let's all get behind the club in what could, instead of just plodding along hoping to make the top four in the 2nd division, be a new start with the aim of finally topping this league and getting Fax back to where I believe we belong. We will be doing our bit by getting season tickets for the 1st time in a couple of years and buying the new shirts. Together we can make Fax great again after far too long. Up The Fax! :thumb:

Have you been copying off my notes. :)

Seriously though.
Cas certainly show others that it can be done and if you look at it from the other side there's no way that they would have achieved what they have without ambition.
However, they would probably say they have always been ambitious but not always had the results to reflect it and again looking at it from the other side some have reasoned that they almost went bust because of being overly ambitious and spending beyond their means.

On the bigger picture this has been the case.
For every recent rugby league success story there have been several failures all by clubs who were no doubt ambitious but it didn't work.

Back to Cas, many say their recent success can predominantly be summed up in two words, namely Darryl Powell.
Re: Ambition
Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:59 am
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Its right place, right time syndrome. Cas have always traditionally been well supported compared to their population and they really don't have much competition sports wise in the town. If you suddenly bring in the best coach and a bunch of hungry players it can suddenly ignite but it does not happen often a bit like Leicester winning the premier league. For us to out do 4 full time teams is an ask on a par or even above what Leicester achieved, that's not to say we don't have ambition though. We all want to see Fax competing back at the top of this division its just without the money coming in thats very difficult.

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Re: Ambition
Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:00 am
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Well said Hudd-Shay and good to hear you are suporting the club through your monetary investment.
There are some great examples of a wind of change that I have witnessed over the last few months that show the club and its supporters are trying to build something.
Closer links between the Supporters Trust and the club
More planned events for fundraising by the Trust which will unfold over the next 12 months
The changes at the top with two recently added new Directors who will add some fresh impetous over time
Spreading of the Fax brand via a group of fax fans based in Leeds putting banners in Halifax/Brighouse and surrounding areas.
Mark Moore's drive to get more communication and links with the Fax faithfull-certainly evident at the last Fax forum.
Results on the field will of course be the ultimate driver to success but we can all do our bit, no matter how small, to help the club realise it's ambitions and goals.
Onwards and upwards.
Re: Ambition
Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 12:08 pm
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faxcar wrote:
Have you been copying off my notes. :)

Seriously though.
Cas certainly show others that it can be done and if you look at it from the other side there's no way that they would have achieved what they have without ambition.
However, they would probably say they have always been ambitious but not always had the results to reflect it and again looking at it from the other side some have reasoned that they almost went bust because of being overly ambitious and spending beyond their means.

On the bigger picture this has been the case.
For every recent rugby league success story there have been several failures all by clubs who were no doubt ambitious but it didn't work.

Back to Cas, many say their recent success can predominantly be summed up in two words, namely Darryl Powell.

A Darryl Powell certainly would help.
Hear All, See All, Say Nowt.
Eat All, Sup All, Pay Nowt.
And if Tha ever does Owt for Nowt,
Allus do it for Thissen.
Re: Ambition
Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:11 pm
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Greg Florimos Boots wrote:
Its right place, right time syndrome. Cas have always traditionally been well supported compared to their population and they really don't have much competition sports wise in the town.


Neither have Fax.
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Re: Ambition
Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:54 pm
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Ambition to me is not putting a barrier to where and what you want to achieve . We need to constantly improve and have new aims.

MM To be fair has challenged the stagnant approach of how the club was run . We could hardly moan about having no money when the merchandise side , as he said to us at the forum , brought not a penny in to the club. . The club will now soon run the shop again so an income stream is back up and running and quite rightly so . MM can then concentrate on improving all the commercial income side. The decks have been cleared and the club is in a position to build .

We may not have Powell but RM could have the capability to go up a gear but probably needs an experienced guiding hand to encourage and speed him in the right direction on attack with some flair in his recruitment , retention and selection. It took Powell time to get defence sorted .....we are the other way around, but time is key.
Re: Ambition
Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:46 pm
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interceptor wrote:
Ambition to me is not putting a barrier to where and what you want to achieve . We need to constantly improve and have new aims.

MM To be fair has challenged the stagnant approach of how the club was run . We could hardly moan about having no money when the merchandise side , as he said to us at the forum , brought not a penny in to the club. . The club will now soon run the shop again so an income stream is back up and running and quite rightly so . MM can then concentrate on improving all the commercial income side. The decks have been cleared and the club is in a position to build .

We may not have Powell but RM could have the capability to go up a gear but probably needs an experienced guiding hand to encourage and speed him in the right direction on attack with some flair in his recruitment , retention and selection. It took Powell time to get defence sorted .....we are the other way around, but time is key.



If ever there was an opportunity to help the Club compete this is the time as at last Mark Moore seems intent on driving the Club forward and if everyone who can help in any way by just doing a bit extra please step up . I think the cobwebs are finally geting a dusting off Mark seems to have a knack of looking at things differantly and soon sees what needs changing but we too need to change . I saw an interview with Daryl Powell speaking about when he took over at Cas` he said " This Club belongs to it`s fans ,they are the ones who decide if they want a Club or not " .Why don`t we all make a super human effort to back Mark Moore and the other new Directors in support for the Club ? I know not everyone can afford over and above the entrance but if you have a bit of change pop it in the Trust buckets because if everyone gives a bit it makes a lot .Buy a season ticket , shirts , attend Trust quizes ,events , join the Trust or take part in their Meal Deal or Fantasy team .Or if anyone who has an idea to make some money through an event or similar but can`t do it alone please get hold of a Trust member and let them know .I feel optomistic about this season much more than the last , I think the winds of change can come if we all do our bit .
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Re: Ambition
Post Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:26 am
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Cassandra wrote:
If ever there was an opportunity to help the Club compete this is the time as at last Mark Moore seems intent on driving the Club forward and if everyone who can help in any way by just doing a bit extra please step up . I think the cobwebs are finally geting a dusting off Mark seems to have a knack of looking at things differantly and soon sees what needs changing but we too need to change . I saw an interview with Daryl Powell speaking about when he took over at Cas` he said " This Club belongs to it`s fans ,they are the ones who decide if they want a Club or not " .Why don`t we all make a super human effort to back Mark Moore and the other new Directors in support for the Club ? I know not everyone can afford over and above the entrance but if you have a bit of change pop it in the Trust buckets because if everyone gives a bit it makes a lot .Buy a season ticket , shirts , attend Trust quizes ,events , join the Trust or take part in their Meal Deal or Fantasy team .Or if anyone who has an idea to make some money through an event or similar but can`t do it alone please get hold of a Trust member and let them know .I feel optomistic about this season much more than the last , I think the winds of change can come if we all do our bit .


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