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Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:06 am
burybabe Strong-running second rower
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Disciplinary process not worth the paper it's written on.
Typical RFL total joke. Different rules for SL Clubs especially when they are in danger of relegation.
Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 7:30 am
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Hmm.. Let me have a think about that one.
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Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:04 am
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burybabe wrote:
Disciplinary process not worth the paper it's written on.
Typical RFL total joke. Different rules for SL Clubs especially when they are in danger of relegation.


There also appear to be different rules applying to different SL clubs.

Jamie Acton got NINE matches for lifting up an apparently concussed Greg Bird (yes, the same one!) in Perpignan. I say 'apparently' concussed, because it turned out that he wasn't. Coincidentally, Leigh scrum half Ben Reynolds was injured (broken nose) in that seemingly reckless, high, late challenge by Bird, which had 'apparently' concussed Bird.

Acton deserved suspending, because Bird could have been injured, and his actions could have had serious consequences. But NINE matches, when the player wasn't injured? Acton/Leigh appealed, and the ban was increased to FOUR MONTHS (effectively ELEVEN matches - including a potential £1 Million game, that he would have been available for, on the nine match ban!) Ironically, Bird's suspension for a highly dangerous challenge, is REDUCED on appeal, so that he would be available for that £1 Million game.

By the way, I also have sympathy for your statement about Championship clubs receiving heavier suspensions. Obviously the RFL consider players from those clubs punch harder, tackle harder, trip more violently etc than SL players!! :wink: It's a strange one, because you could argue that the 'misdemeanours' of SL players are seen by a wider audience, (by SKY & BBC viewers and larger crowds) than those of Championship clubs. Therefore the actions of SL players are bringing the game into greater disrepute, than those of Championship players. Of course, you also could argue that the actions of the RFL bring the Sport into greater disrepute, than the actions of any of those players, at any level!! :wink:
Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:15 am
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atomic wrote:
Hmm.. Let me have a think about that one.


Depends if you are one of the favored clubs of course :wink:
Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:32 am
burybabe Strong-running second rower
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It also depends whether the SL Team is in our illustrious CEO' s remit of expanding the game to whichever country can come up with the cash. The M62 corridor and it's teams do not mean much now unless you are one of the favoured few. Agree Acton was harshly punished. But why should Bird's suspension be reduced for what was potentially a very dangerous throw. The bottom line is that the RFL is not fit for purpose.
Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:22 pm
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Acton wasn't harshly punished,you don't pull injured players off the ground it could have paralysed him for all he knew.
Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:11 pm
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mr t hall wrote:
Acton wasn't harshly punished,you don't pull injured players off the ground it could have paralysed him for all he knew.


Acton was an idiot and I fully agree that his action was highly dangerous. Acton maintains that he knew that Bird wasn't badly injured, but of course he would say that!

My point is that nine matches may have been fair punishment, or not - but to increase it on appeal? Could Bird's awful tackle on Ben Heaton, not have left him paralysed? And do you feel that four matches, then reduced to three, was a reasonable punishment? How do you reckon Bird's "tackle" compared with Acton's stupidity? I'd have said that, if Acton's 'crime' was worth eleven matches, setting a benchmark for players with 'previous', then Bird's was worth more than three.

Without delving too far into paranoia, we also 'suffered' from the Tony Gigot farce this season. He quite rightly (IMO) was suspended for two years, for his astonishing reaction to a drug tester, only to have the ban, equally astonishingly, lifted during the week before we played Catalans. He went on to star in that game, almost as though he had been training with the team for weeks, rather than having been banned from all contact with them! :wink: Needless to say, the suspension was re-imposed, after we had played them! I wonder if his 're-appeal' will be heard before the MPG? :wink:
Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:20 pm
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I can't disagree with the arguements and comparisons that are being made about the lack of consistency between how Acton and Bird have been treated.

I assume the RFL are happy that the current precedent on kneck-breaker tackles is only 3 matches - some coaches would be happy with employing that tactic if it secures their SL existence in the short term.
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Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:24 pm
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Hadn't realised Jessie Ventura was a Leyther !
Re: Dragon Bird Out for the Rest of the Season
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:39 pm
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Makes Manu's 10 game ban seem even more ridiculous. Can't remember who were we playing that day ? :wink:
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