Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Wed Sep 21, 2016 8:55 pm  

halifaxjohn wrote:

Can I respectfully suggest that we all stop rising to Gavin, he has his agenda, never hidden, he hates Fax, that's his prerogative,
Nothing any of us say will make him think rationally.

How dare you? Massive Fax fan is our Gav. Well that's what he tries to convince people anyway. He's a complete empty head.

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:52 pm  

Bubba wrote:

I agree that it is a very difficult situation for Fax and some blame should be apportioned to those who owned/ran the club when they failed to invest in Thrum Hall, allowed it to become a dump leaving you with no option but to move to a football stadium.

Cheeky git how dare you call Thrum Hall a dump did you even go? Thrum Hall was an old stadium yes but was brought up to the over zealous Calderdale Council safety standards by HRLFC with a reduced capacity you may remember or do you???

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:10 pm  

Bubba wrote:

How many games did FCHT play, how many games did HRLFC play, how many non 1st team games did either club play, how many training sessions did each club have?

I take it the gym is now empty of anything to do with HRLFC?

Come on Town do play far more games than Fax end of.
As for the gym funny you should mention equipment because it was Fax through John Pendlebury who built the gym and kitted it out and now you are saying they should shift it all out???
You also forget it was Fax legend John Burnett who started the 'Raise the roof' campaign to get a roof on the South Stand funded mostly by Fax fans and the South Stand Lounge was built from the money given by the Taverners Club from Thrum Hall yet no mention of those eh???

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Wed Sep 21, 2016 10:14 pm  

Bubba wrote:

Well, to say I spent at least the first ten years of HRLFC playing at the Shay as a regular (home and away) I dont think you have a valid point.

As for the Shay becoming a dump - it was never owned by HTAFC so again you are just clutching at straws.

So IF the Shay was never owned by HTAFC firstly who owned it before the speedway moved in and before CMBC took it over in the eighties???
Oh and if Town never owned it how can Town fans call the rugby club squatters as according to you they don't own the stadium and never did???

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Thu Sep 22, 2016 12:54 am  

Historical ownership of the Shay seems to be shrouded in a little bit of mystery (the Wiki makes interesting reading, but is unproven in it's facts), but it's council owned now, and sadly they don't seem to have the funding/will/desire to keep it in pristine condition. Remedial work will cost far more than ongoing maintenance, but that seems to be the way of the world now.

A bit of a weird debate here, with a lot of "selective" arguments and points being made.

I do follow FC Halifax Town's results and genuinely wish them well, but do find it strange that their supporters call HRLFC the "squatters" at the Shay. FCHT came into being in 2008, at which point HRLFC had been in residence for 10 years at the ground.

HTAFC ceased to exist in 2008, and although there's a strong geographical link to FCHT, the fact of the matter is that the latter has only been in existence for 8 years.

These spats between supporters apart, the respective boards need to bury their ego's and get their heads together for the better future of both clubs.

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:20 am  

Bubba wrote:

The East Stand design was initially so big to satisfy the requirements of Super League - we all know there wasnt such a requirement for the Football League. It is fair to say that CMBC would not have completed the East Stand had it not been a shared stadium but that doesnt absolve HRLFC from the historical issues. The initial funding to get the stadium up to Football League and Super League standard came from the Football Stadium Improvement Fund and was not dependent on Fax being at the Shay.

The 2nd part once again shows a complete lack of understanding. The majority of the debts which led to the demise of HTAFC were related to the East Stand development. In fact, the creditor who led the revolt and refused to accept the Administrators proposal were the steel erectors. Fax put little more than sod all into the stadium development whilst the football club struggled with the debt (partly due to the ridiculous way the development was managed by all sides).

Keep bringing up the false claims and I shall keep on swatting them away

So you're saying Town's issues stemmed from problems to do with erections?

Pretty much sums it up I reckon.

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Thu Sep 22, 2016 8:03 am  

The deluded oricle must have gone into melt down, rabidly looking through historical records, stat sheets, FOI's etc endlessly searching column after column of print looking for something, anything to support his distorted view.

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Thu Sep 22, 2016 9:45 am  

HXSparky wrote:

Historical ownership of the Shay seems to be shrouded in a little bit of mystery (the Wiki makes interesting reading, but is unproven in it's facts), but it's council owned now, and sadly they don't seem to have the funding/will/desire to keep it in pristine condition. Remedial work will cost far more than ongoing maintenance, but that seems to be the way of the world now.

A bit of a weird debate here, with a lot of "selective" arguments and points being made.

I do follow FC Halifax Town's results and genuinely wish them well, but do find it strange that their supporters call HRLFC the "squatters" at the Shay. FCHT came into being in 2008, at which point HRLFC had been in residence for 10 years at the ground.

HTAFC ceased to exist in 2008, and although there's a strong geographical link to FCHT, the fact of the matter is that the latter has only been in existence for 8 years.

These spats between supporters apart, the respective boards need to bury their ego's and get their heads together for the better future of both clubs.

Spot on.

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:57 pm  

I agree with Gav on A few things regarding The Shay and Town, the challenges and the opportunities, and the rights and wrongs of Fax's stance, but having said that he is not impartial or unbiased, his leaning is definitely more towards The Shaymens plight, and there is some scarring from Geoffs involvement in Prior attempts at stadium management ventures.
The arguments about who uses which offices, portacabins, players on the pitch, training sessions to me is nothing short of pathetic, there should be a flat rate or simplified pricing/costing for using The Shay facilities, whether you book it for a Wedding reception, end of season do or semi professional sport, never mind pieces of the East Stand or offices in the corner, or shops, maybe the council should shoulder some responsibility for not making the package clearer or more defined. From the outside, the very fact that fax questioned it, leaves me thinking its been like buying rug from a Tunisian. Maybe the cost breakdown is on paper, and follows some logic.
It still feels like Fax are the unwanted tennant down there, and i get incredibly bored talking to Town fans who don't care for RL, because i care for both. God i miss Speedway, life was simpler then, and we were a bloody good side, kick em both out and get a banked track installed and have done with this shenanigans at least we would all have a chance of seeing world class sportsmen and we'd get some global exposure.

[Nat (Rugby_Aholic)]

Re: Rumours from the Terraces : Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:15 pm  

Isn't Bubba related to the person who ran the Shay for years and screwed the East stand project up completely. Can remember at the time there were all sorts of rumours going around. Now paints a fascinating version of history.