Re: Don't do it ! : Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:49 pm  

Fax4Life wrote:

Thumbs down from me especially as a fanatical programme collector they have never been liked as others have said football clubs tried and binned them years ago please DON'T.
With a bit of effort if the programme had more in it like Leigh's it would sell more, ours is very average plus many times they have been sold out before the game as not enough have been printed.

With respect more often too many left than a shortage.

Re: Don't do it ! : Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:56 am  

With respect HJ i would like to know where these programmes were as i struggled on several occasions to get one i know its a fine line when ordering but sometimes the small amount available in the East Stand bordered on the ridiculous

Re: Don't do it ! : Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:33 pm  

I have said on here before that a matchday programme is more of a hassle for a club - certainly the size of Fax (not meant in a condescending way) - than a benefit. Even when taking into consideration advertising revenue and programme sales, the time and effort that goes into producing a programme barely makes it worth while.

When I worked for HTAFC and had responsibility for putting together the programme I viewed it as an unwelcome distraction - chasing contributors for their articles, (more often than not) having to write the Chairman and Managers notes, putting together articles to fill in blank pages, etc. Dropping off the final version and then having to pick the printed copies usually at an unsociable hour also didnt help. Then you have to sort the correct numbers for the changing rooms, press, board room, diners/sponsors, mail orders; organise/liaise with the programme sellers and then deal with disgruntled supporters when you have sold out and they didnt get one.

Re: Don't do it ! : Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:40 pm  

Bubba wrote:

I have said on here before that a matchday programme is more of a hassle for a club - certainly the size of Fax (not meant in a condescending way) - than a benefit. Even when taking into consideration advertising revenue and programme sales, the time and effort that goes into producing a programme barely makes it worth while.

When I worked for HTAFC and had responsibility for putting together the programme I viewed it as an unwelcome distraction - chasing contributors for their articles, (more often than not) having to write the Chairman and Managers notes, putting together articles to fill in blank pages, etc. Dropping off the final version and then having to pick the printed copies usually at an unsociable hour also didnt help. Then you have to sort the correct numbers for the changing rooms, press, board room, diners/sponsors, mail orders; organise/liaise with the programme sellers and then deal with disgruntled supporters when you have sold out and they didnt get one.

You're missing the point though.All the 'hassles' will remain it's just the size and quality that will change.My preference is for a prog same shape and quality as now but with far less pages to cut down on cost.I have no desire for Fax to win a prog award for producing glossy 60 page editions packed with colour photos.10/12 should cover the essentials of a matchday prog which should encompass the mood of the club at a period of time
as it's priority.

Re: Don't do it ! : Mon Nov 30, 2015 1:42 pm  

No, the point is that it may make the hassle more worth while. Though obviously it could back fire if people stop buying it due to its inferior quality of print (if thats the case).

Re: Don't do it ! : Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:17 pm  

I heard a while ago it was going to the newspaper style, I believe the production cost is lower than the glossy style.

Personally I'd like to see the club find a way to sell it as a download to view online or on a tablet, dont think it would be a massive job to get the print version onto a PDF type file, subscriptions could be sold up front, and getting hold of back issues would never be a problem if someone wanted to view a particular one

Re: Don't do it ! : Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:47 pm  

halifaxjohn wrote:

With respect more often too many left than a shortage.

I don't know how as on numerous times there was none left at the South Stand end so is something going wrong with distribution as the programme sellers told me a few times they had only been given a limited number?

Re: Don't do it ! : Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:51 pm  

Fax4Life wrote:

I don't know how as on numerous times there was none left at the South Stand end so is something going wrong with distribution as the programme sellers told me a few times they had only been given a limited number?

I was told by a programme seller at one game that only 35 programmes had been supplied for sale in the East Stand.

Not surprisingly, they were sold out nearly 40 minutes before kick-off.

It wouldn't have sent out a good message to visiting supporters in that stand who arrived in good time for the game but still missed out on acquiring a programme that day.

I wondered at the time how many were left lying around in the corporate/dining areas.

To many supporters, a programme is part of the matchday experience.

If the Club do go for a newspaper style issue, is there any guarantee that these will be made available in sufficient numbers or will the same supply issue still persist?

Re: Don't do it ! : Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:48 am  

Totally agree ff i was told the same found myself going to games earlier & earlier with no guarantee of getting one
As you say will there be enough,will it be free like the Dulls ?