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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:37 pm
Posted by Dally on Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:37 pm
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He's entitled to his views. I don't think anyone has said he isn't. The fact that his views on abortion have more in common with those of the mullahs of the Taliban than the majority of people in this country show him to be out of touch. It shows a lack of empathy, compassion and pragmatism that would preclude him from being in high office.

I think not. He clearly distinguished between the law as set by the elected representatives on the people and his personal beliefs.
Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:41 pm
Posted by Bullseye on Thu Sep 07, 2017 12:41 pm
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I think you're mistaken. Even most of the oldest voters don't share his views on abortion (it being accepted in UK law for 50 years).

He was the ONLY MP in the house to vote against keeping open the DUBS scheme for unaccompanied child refugees. Despite the Pope saying at the time "Protecting the world's migrants and refugees is a moral imperative". Seems he's keener on certain Catholic teachings than others.

Under the novelty persona lies an unpleasant man.
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:10 pm
Posted by Sheldon on Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:10 pm
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He'll be very popular with the oldest voters and he's become a cult figure among sections of the young. Be careful what you wish for.


There's no one who'd have voted labour who's now in moggmentum.

He'll have a cult following with these nice people

http://metro.co.uk/2017/08/30/young-tor ... s-6891620/
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:11 pm
Posted by Sheldon on Thu Sep 07, 2017 1:11 pm
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Bullseye wrote:
Under the novelty persona lies an unpleasant man.


The same as Boris, when you look what they actually stand for it's repulsive.
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I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old.


The Reason wrote:
Hi Andy

The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
 
 
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:45 pm
Posted by bren2k on Thu Sep 07, 2017 2:45 pm
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Dally wrote:
he's become a cult figure among sections of the young


That would be the "young" who tried to form a Tory version of Momentum, and were quickly outed (by Guido Fawkes no less) as having a WhatsApp group where they had a jolly old lol about gassing chavs?

I don't think anyone in Labour will be worried too much about the potential for those people to be swing voters, do you?
Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:12 am
Posted by King Street Cat on Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:12 am
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The Mogg is a bit like BoJo in that the Tories wheel him out when they need to cause a distraction.
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Post Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:48 am
Posted by Kelvin's Ferret on Thu Sep 14, 2017 11:48 am
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The Mogg is a bit like BoJo in that the Tories wheel him out when they need to cause a distraction.


He has the same kind of novelty function as Dennis Skinner for a section of the left, or several other politicians across the spectrum. It's good click bait but only a numpty would believe their outward schtick has a bearing of the serious practical political horse trading done largely behind the scenes in committees, briefings and meetings. Boris is a bit different, behind his bumbling schtick, he has held, and indeed currently does hold, serious roles with genuine influence. Mogg on the other hand has been an MP for nearly 8 years, but he hasn't chaired a committee, nor has he been a junior minister, nor does he have a latent powerbase to tap into (which is what Corbyn has successfully managed to do, but even Corbyn has had to tone down his previous loonie leftie schtick in order to transition from novelty politics to serious politics).
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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:50 pm
Posted by Lebron James on Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:50 pm
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Dally wrote:
Good to see a politician stand up unequivocally for what he believes in without cowering in front of the liberal thought police. Whether you agree with him or not on the issues of gay marriage, abortion, etc it is refreshing to see somebody stand up for what he thinks, despite knowing there will be a backlash from the loud-mouthed, intellectually stunted, self-appointed guardians of what we should think and say. Handled the ambush so much better than Farron.


Oh man. Can't believe i missed this post from "Dally-mail", which translates to "good to see someone stand up to what they believe in as long as it's xenophobic or doesn't have people's best interests at heart.

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Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:36 pm
Posted by bren2k on Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:36 pm
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Jacob Rees-Mogg on the massive increase in the use of food banks:

"I don’t think the state can do everything. It tries to provide a base of welfare that should allow people to make ends meet during the course of the week, but on some occasions that will not work. And to have charitable support given by people voluntarily to support their fellow citizens, I think is rather uplifting and shows what a good, compassionate country we are.”

That's out of touch, privileged and contempt for real people, summed in one statement.
Re: Jacob Rees-Mogg
Post Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:58 am
Posted by Keith on Tue Sep 19, 2017 8:58 am
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Every clever tory heavyweight who supported Leave has taken steps to make sure they don't get thrust into the drivers seat as Brexit unfolds.
Rees Mogg probably believes the guff he spouts, but he will have said it publicly to scupper the campaign to get him elected before it gets off the ground.
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