Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Fri Jan 06, 2012 9:53 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

Well I'll hold my hand up then, both of my kids went to CofE primary and secondary schools and you know my attitude on organised religion of any kind

Why ?
Because both schools were the best available in the area.

Hypocrite ?
Yep, I can understand that accusation entirely.

Do I give a fook ?
No.


The only thing that mattered to me was that they got the best that was available at the time, if the other school in our area now surpasses the one that they went to then I'd want to send them there instead, neither school over-emphasised on religion, when they studied religion they did the whole national curriculum and studied other religions too so they weren't heavily indoctrinated into the CofE, neither of them have ever been to church since, neither of them seem phased by their experience although both of them agree that the Primary school headteacher was a bloody embarrassment every time he got his guitar out in assembly to sing happy-clappy hymns.

Did they get taught evolution?

This doesn't surprise when, at schools like Eton, it's compulsory to have a faith.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:19 am  

If my future children are ever required to have "a faith" to get into a school, I'll just produce the documentation that verifies them as Sith apprentices.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:01 am  

Sheldon wrote:

Did they get taught evolution?

This doesn't surprise when, at schools like Eton, it's compulsory to have a faith.

Yes they did.

Although the head at the primary school discouraged them celebrating Halloween and listening to John Lennon's "Imagine".

On the other hand when I was at a secular primary school the teachers there discouraged us from growing our hair over our collars and wearing cowbells to school in the summer of love (1967, not some cheap imitation).

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:26 pm  

My son went to a church school (because it was the best available, so I'm another hypocrite ). After the first day he came home and said he didn't like it and didn't want to go back. We asked him what was wrong and he said 'they have a dead bloke nailed on the wall', which was a full size model of Jesus on the cross.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:51 pm  

[quote="rover49"]My son went to a church school (because it was the best available, so I'm another hypocrite ). After the first day he came home and said he didn't like it and didn't want to go back. We asked him what was wrong and he said 'they have a dead bloke nailed on the wall', which was a full size model of Jesus on the cross.[/quote]


I too am a hypocrite as both of my boys attend a RC primary school, again because it is the best available in my area.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:12 pm  

The key question you all need to be asking is WHY faith schools are generally the best in any area?

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:21 pm  

Dally wrote:

The key question you all need to be asking is WHY faith schools are generally the best in any area?

If WE all need to be asking that, you obviously know the answer. What is it?

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:47 pm  

cod'ead wrote:

If WE all need to be asking that, you obviously know the answer. What is it?

That's for YOU to ask YOURSELVES and decide.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:35 pm  

Dally wrote:

The key question you all need to be asking is WHY faith schools are generally the best in any area?

For the same reason that all schools with a selection policy are generally the best in any area - because as part of the selection process, even an undisclosed part of the selection process, they can select the more academically inclined, leaving the less able to be picked up by the non-selective schools - you may as well ask why grammar schools invariably had better academic results than secondary schools.

Re: Prevent The Church Hijacking Our Schools : Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:06 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

For the same reason that all schools with a selection policy are generally the best in any area - because as part of the selection process, even an undisclosed part of the selection process, they can select the more academically inclined, leaving the less able to be picked up by the non-selective schools - you may as well ask why grammar schools invariably had better academic results than secondary schools.

Is that really true of, say. Muslim schools? Jewish schools? etc?