Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:04 am  

bren2k wrote: An alternative view, comprehensively debunked by the FT The telling phrase in your article is: "The advantage of using WTO terms is the UK is not bound by EU rules or committed to agree to its red tape and regulations" Yes, that bothersome EU red tape and regulation, ensuring such annoyingly unnecessary things as food safety, consumer protection, working regulations and dispute resolution; who needs all that nonsense getting in the way? Indeed and the irony is that if we wish to supply our goods and services into the EU (post Brexit) we will still need to conform, despite the utter rubbish spouted by Boris, Gove and Farage, who seem to think we will lead the world once more, backed by our friends in the commonwealth. If it wasn't so important, it would be truly hilarious.

bren2k wrote: An alternative view, comprehensively debunked by the FT The telling phrase in your article is: "The advantage of using WTO terms is the UK is not bound by EU rules or committed to agree to its red tape and regulations" Yes, that bothersome EU red tape and regulation, ensuring such annoyingly unnecessary things as food safety, consumer protection, working regulations and dispute resolution; who needs all that nonsense getting in the way? Indeed and the irony is that if we wish to supply our goods and services into the EU (post Brexit) we will still need to conform, despite the utter rubbish spouted by Boris, Gove and Farage, who seem to think we will lead the world once more, backed by our friends in the commonwealth. If it wasn't so important, it would be truly hilarious.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:28 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Indeed and the irony is that if we wish to supply our goods and services into the EU (post Brexit) we will still need to conform, despite the utter rubbish spouted by Boris, Gove and Farage, who seem to think we will lead the world once more, backed by our friends in the commonwealth.
If it wasn't so important, it would be truly hilarious.

I imagine that the odious Rees-Mogg is drawing up plans to reinstate the East India Company as we speak.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:45 am  

bren2k wrote:

I imagine that the odious Rees-Mogg is drawing up plans to reinstate the East India Company as we speak.

Have you forgotten David lammy and Diane Abbott?.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:09 am  

wrencat1873 wrote:

Indeed and the irony is that if we wish to supply our goods and services into the EU (post Brexit) we will still need to conform, despite the utter rubbish spouted by Boris, Gove and Farage, who seem to think we will lead the world once more, backed by our friends in the commonwealth.
If it wasn't so important, it would be truly hilarious.

Just as 'we' have to conform to local standards in all other export markets.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:08 pm  

Dally wrote:

Just as 'we' have to conform to local standards in all other export markets.

Therefore, ironically, if we take on some new export markets, we will actually be increasing the numbers of rules and regulations that our manufacturers have to conform to.
It's hilarious when you think back to the "leave" brigade wanting to get rid of EU bureaucracy

Have you recognised the "pup" that "we" were sold yet.

[Bullseye]

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:44 am  

I suspect the bonfire of red tape will be so that the UK is able to import any old rubbish that was previously banned such as chlorinated chicken and meat full of antiobiotics and other stuff so that a fast buck can be made. That and shredding environmental rules so that companies can pollute the beaches, seas and watercourses. It'll happen to improve "competitiveness".

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:49 am  

Bullseye wrote:

I suspect the bonfire of red tape will be so that the UK is able to import any old rubbish that was previously banned such as chlorinated chicken and meat full of antiobiotics and other stuff so that a fast buck can be made. That and shredding environmental rules so that companies can pollute the beaches, seas and watercourses. It'll happen to improve "competitiveness".

Not to mention the protection of workers rights, which many companies see as a barrier to greater profits; but hey, taking back control and all that jazz.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:36 pm  

Can anyone remember an MP showing such blatant disregard & contempt for a PM than Johnson?
Strong & stable.

[Bullseye]

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:06 pm  

tigertot wrote:

Can anyone remember an MP showing such blatant disregard & contempt for a PM than Johnson?
Strong & stable.

Not so publicly but Jezza certainly had a habit of ignoring the Labour whips when he was a backbencher.

Johnson is like real life Alan B'stard.

Re: Brexit Anyone? (2) : Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:40 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Not so publicly but Jezza certainly had a habit of ignoring the Labour whips when he was a backbencher.

Johnson is like real life Alan B'stard.

The way his latest episode is being reported is in stark contrast to the breathless allegations of AS levelled at Corbyn and the Labour party; R4 yesterday was full of commentators and presenters saying "gaffe/colourful language/should we be allowed to offend people etc etc." And the most hateful media trope of all - constantly referring to him as 'Boris,' regardless of context, as if he's some harmless, comedy character who shouldn't be taken seriously.

Make no mistake - this was an exercise in market research, following his meeting with Steve Bannon; the Tory base likes a bit of racism, so he's testing the water to see if it increases his stock for a leadership bid.